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Date:      Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:27:31 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: [OT] OpenSSL, certification chains and Exim
Message-ID:  <3C432313.29A3CF82@mindspring.com>
References:  <91603.1011018796@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za>

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Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> > RFC 1423 is a good starting point, and there are a lot of nice
> > books on the subject, but I don't think any of them are less
> > than ~300 pages.
> 
> Just out of curiosity, what does RFC 1423 call what you refer to as
> "leaf certificates"?

Uh, "leaves"?

Oh... heh... 1423... I meant 1422.  See section 3.1, paragraph 3.

I've also seen it referred to as "non-CA certficicate holders".

--

Really, if you are going to get into this, you will need the
ASN.1 and X.509 documentation, and some understanding of how
directory servers are supposed to operate in order to provide
CRLs (Certificate Revocation Lists).  The common practice is
to ignore CRLs entirely, and time limit the validity of the
certificates by expiration-date stamping them, and then making
the holders attempt to renew them starting at 50% of the
remaining lifetime (like DHCP leases).

At one point in time, I suggested the use of timed certificates
with an issuer like RBL as a means of controlling SPAM: no
certificate means you don't get to send email.  A transition
period could be handled by having a third party referral to the
"non-spam" CA by certificate enabled servers talking to clients
that were not certificate providing by asking "would you sign a
certificate for this machine were it to ask you to sign one?".
The point being that you don't just burn an IP address in a POP
until you burn the dialup account, instead you burn domain
registrations, which, because of the space density, are much
more expensive to burn (nail spam at the most vulnerable and
tightest economic boundary possible).

So, you'll understand if 1423 came to my mind as "the most
relevent RFC for certificates".  8-).

-- Terry

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