From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 8 18:21:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F886106564A for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1244F8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB8ILCEk001619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:21:13 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB8ILCmg081451; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:21:12 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB8ILCa0081450; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:21:12 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:21:12 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Aristedes Maniatis Message-ID: <20081208182112.GW58682@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ImSVV91IQg5ga+3z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-stable Stable Subject: Re: visibility of release process X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:21:16 -0000 --ImSVV91IQg5ga+3z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Dec-08 20:57:37 +1100, Aristedes Maniatis wrote: >* subversion. Without checking out the whole repository, it is a =20 >little hard to use this as a news source and emails to the commit list =20 >still look more like cvs than svn so it is a bit hard to see which =20 >branch commits are going to. [3] I'm not sure what you want here. The branch is clearly indicated in both the subject and body of commit messages. What do you mean as "news source"? Commits are inherently low level and it's difficult to see how a commit could be massaged into some sort of press release without a fair amount of meta information in the commit log. >* the bug tracker. Let's just say that FreeBSD's bug tracker is fairly =20 >primitive and 'target release' is not an option. Agreed. This is an issue that comes up regularly but I don't believe a solution has been identified. I suspect one of the requirements would be that it be FOSS. >2. Some web based friendly end-user visibility on the commit process, =20 >per branch. I presume you're aware of svn.freebsd.org. > People can see what is going in and being fixed, but not =20 >what is left outstanding. If you mean open PRs, lists are regularly reported to various mailing lists and can be accessed via http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi Better integration of the PR and commit process might be nice but I'm not sure if it's practical with gnats. >[3] I've also made an attempt to have Atlassian use Fisheye to =20 >produce an friendly overview of the repository, I've had a look at several of the fisheye sites and am not sure what it would buy the Project, other than some pretty graphs. I don't see how this is any more "friendly" than svn.freebsd.org. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --ImSVV91IQg5ga+3z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk9ZZgACgkQ/opHv/APuIeYKQCfVza5p2xHXWtBx4Dr/Vq2GOEo D6UAoMFan4Fr3tLJI7oZ39/7OXM2xAR6 =R614 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ImSVV91IQg5ga+3z--