From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 30 14:44:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4E816A407 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC2B43EB7 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:38:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-ports-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 13330 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2006 14:38:47 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Nov 2006 14:38:47 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 76B8D28430; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:38:45 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20061127222709.aa35ab22.nork@FreeBSD.org> <200611290957.26508@aldan> <44irgyjlyf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <200611291052.23327@aldan> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:38:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200611291052.23327@aldan> (Mikhail Teterin's message of "Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:52:22 -0500") Message-ID: <44ejrlknii.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ports/devel/icu: PTHREAD_LIBS clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:44:11 -0000 Mikhail Teterin writes: > On Wednesday 29 November 2006 10:45, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > =3D ICU is different in that not only can it be called from multiple > =3D threads, but those threads can (in theory -- as far as I know, you're > =3D right that nobody uses this capability right now) be interacting. > =3D =A0 > =3D > You are (slightly) pessimizing your installation by building a > =3D > thread-aware ICU without having a need for it... > =3D=20 > =3D On the other hand, that could change at any time. =A0 > =3D=20 > =3D Think of all the other programmers in the world as independent > =3D threads, that could use the API in new ways... =A0;-) > > I know. And the ICU developers think, threads should be enabled by defaul= t.=20 > The reason they aren't right now -- in the FreeBSD port -- is because of= =20 > certain bugs in thread implementation(s) on FreeBSD/ia64, which lead to=20 > crashes in ICU. > > Since nothing is using ICU in a multi-threaded fashion _right now_, the=20 > current version of the port builds without threads by default. Norikatsu= =20 > confirms, he is not calling into ICU from multiple threads either, hence = my=20 > suggestion, he does not need to change the option. > > When the ia64's thread-implementation improves, the next update to the po= rt=20 > will change the default... Okay, I apologize for misunderstanding you; I thought you were saying that the thread libraries had just been fixed.=20=20