From owner-freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 21:35:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06811065672; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sippysoft.com (gk1.360sip.com [72.236.70.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B178FC15; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.0.9] ([204.244.149.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by sippysoft.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7PLZEDT061265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48B3259E.8070601@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:35:26 -0700 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Sippy Software, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <136a340a0808220719t3a170786s7fd4bcb662d0b981@mail.gmail.com> <48AED560.8010001@FreeBSD.org> <20080822225510.GI32539@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48B0BEC7.1070806@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, kmacy@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway , freebsd-sun4v@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sun4v arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-sun4v@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the sun4v List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:35:18 -0000 Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Peter Jeremy wrote: >> Is there a summary of the open issues somewhere? There are no sun4v >> PRs open. http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/sun4v effectively hasn't >> been touched since November 2006 and suggests that the only critical >> issue is lack of serial port support. > > There is a better interpretation, which is that the only critical issue > is lack of real users for this port, not lack of serial port support :). Just to clarify a bit - my point was not to suggest that port is irrelevant, or that the FreeBSD should not go there. In fact I believe on contrary from what I know sun4v is good as a testbed for the future of multi-processor architectures today - definitely we will see ever increasing number of cores in commodity Intel/AMD servers in few years from now. So that in that sense sun4v work is very important if the FreeBSD project wants to keep ahead of things, not catching-up later. However, realistically immaturity of the port as well as scarcity of hardware limits number of users severely. Therefore, absence of PRs should not be surprising to anyone. -Maxim