From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 06:40:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A6D7FF6 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 06:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x22f.google.com (mail-vc0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 561B31CB7 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 06:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ld13so2854768vcb.20 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:40:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=l+A4w83rCdFSYaSSitbzBObkNLk5DwYS14zIFKOSvj4=; b=Nom4NIkfZdmHYexwsCviXrCwteKjBfzLDJIceGZZsxOvugi3mGtM2vp+qTxemoVg1/ 669X8HjdUCKAYzl5QPdO1+VuukRfejsAn53bGU7n5C5jWPVK64z2z4CwNeJjRYYT0nlJ ATXSs82/QpDTmS0GXkxJB8pIS6bqQBCUL/eIfbJ9rWJCM7wBYvoAI3/bWcbh23KLkWBb 3rvO84l4xb3Dk8qm5p00zX5++M1kssan38ozamLpDgpgIPEl7sxtaUF+fDTwfLJr6ibt whr0d4hPSEwnDcmzXqjicn192SeAHt61I4jaxBr4jxyrt+HtESFv+YJzHTVuISjAwPcf bqew== X-Received: by 10.52.74.99 with SMTP id s3mr230137vdv.42.1387176050480; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:40:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: royce.williams@gmail.com Received: by 10.221.3.195 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:40:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52AE9CF5.7070408@bluerosetech.com> References: <20131214095001.GV13385@equilibrium.bsdes.net> <52AD0F73.5050905@ShaneWare.Biz> <20131215105736.51c51073@X220.alogt.com> <52AE9A75.9090209@bluerosetech.com> <20131216062107.GL1446@glenbarber.us> <52AE9CF5.7070408@bluerosetech.com> From: Royce Williams Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 21:40:27 -0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kA1_UULsVsaJxpW8Z363v_Mnu4U Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10-RC1 ISO image too big To: freebsd-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 06:40:51 -0000 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > > On 12/15/2013 10:21 PM, Glen Barber wrote: >> >> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:15:17PM -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >>> >>> On 12/14/2013 6:57 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Any reason you need cd media? >>>> >>>> >>>> it is not the CD media, it is simply the bandwidth needed. There are >>>> many FreeBSD people around this globe which do not have the luck of a >>>> 100MBit/s connection. Every byte which is not on a media counts here. >>> >>> >>> Your argument doesn't make sense. If they need to minimize downloading, >>> they should down the bootonly image and fetch/create packages for the ports >>> they need. Anything else is going to spend bytes downloading things they >>> won't use. >> >> >> No, bootonly.iso does not contain the base system, so download time will >> be spent on downloading base.txz, kernel.txz, at minimum. > > > But that will still be fewer downloaded bytes because the CD image contains extras they don't need. That's true if they only have to do one install. As soon as they have to set up multiple machines and/or reinstall a couple of times, the math changes a bit (though I'm not sure by how much). Royce