From owner-freebsd-security Wed Jul 30 09:28:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12792 for security-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (critter.phk.freebsd.dk [195.8.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12787 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02214; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:26:08 +0200 (CEST) To: Nate Williams cc: Marco Molteni , Vincent Poy , security@freebsd.org, "\[Mario1-\]" From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: security hole in FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Jul 1997 08:49:12 MDT." <199707301449.IAA04613@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:26:07 +0200 Message-ID: <2212.870279967@critter.dk.tfs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Ahh, but you assume that we haven't ever seen Vinny before. >Unfortunately, his behavior is 'typical', in that he wants us to do all >his research and work for him, rather than him spending the time to do >his own work. He also shows a complete lack of interest in finding out >solutions to his own problems. > >I've dealt with him too many times over the last 2 years to have >anything but pity on any company he works for, since he will require >hand-holding and doesn't do anything on his own. > > >Nate We have a name for that here in Denmark, we call such people "Wheel-barrow-people". You can use them to do the grunt work, but you have to have a tight grip in them with both your hands. If you leave them for however long or short a moment, they'll be the same place you left them when you come back. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail.