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Content-Language: en-CA To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20250526151416.68ff7c09.grembo@freebsd.org> From: Dennis Clarke Organization: GENUNIX In-Reply-To: <20250526151416.68ff7c09.grembo@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-oetec-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-oetec-MailScanner-ID: 54QEECa5061723 X-oetec-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-oetec-MailScanner-From: dclarke@blastwave.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5d6x6y9Vz3Lgt X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.13 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.993]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.84)[0.835]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[blastwave.org,quarantine]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[108.160.241.186:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blastwave.org:s=default]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blastwave.org:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:812, ipnet:108.160.240.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] On 5/26/25 09:14, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:25:50 -0400 > Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. >> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. >> > > Merge From Current = Merging or back-porting a base commit from CURRENT > (main/base/HEAD) to another, usually lower, FreeBSD version branch. > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Glossary#MFC_--_Merge_From_Current > > -m > So many places with special terms and stuff buried somewhere. In the last week or so I have discovered https://archive.freebsd.org/ and now there is https://wiki.freebsd.org/ which I have not ever seen once in five or six years of trying to use FreeBSD. Maybe a link or something can be put on the "About" page? https://www.freebsd.org/about/ Even more crazy is the way in which FreeBSD is changed and/or fixed. There are bug reports of course but it seems everything really happens in a thing called a Phabricator. It really is a great UNIX implementation and runs like a charm as a server but the skills required are all over the place and no where and everywhere and yeah ... thanks to this mail list I can at least keep a few things running. To quote a really cool guy that is an expert at such things "If it breaks you can keep both pieces." -- -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken