From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 16 14:41:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3DB16A4CE; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:41:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.156.12.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89FE43D1F; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:41:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CF646B23; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:41:59 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Harti Brandt In-Reply-To: <20050415173711.I658@beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> Message-ID: <20050416154049.B64125@fledge.watson.org> References: <20050415173711.I658@beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: De-orbitting ATM-HARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:41:13 -0000 On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Harti Brandt wrote: > not sure whether this is actually off-topic. Some time ago I asked on > freebsd-atm who would have a problem when we remove HARP (netatm, hfa) > from 6. I got only two or three answers which said 'go for it'. Nobody > said that he would have a problem. So should we do it and when? Perhaps > the best time is before 6.0. That would be in the next two weeks as I > understand. > > While there I would also remove everything from netnatm that is not > needed by NgATM. This is mainly the socket interface. I'm not aware of > any application that uses it. Any thoughts on this? One of the concerns I have with the ATM stacks present in the system is that none appears to be MPSAFE. I am currently unable to perform any ATM-related testing, and so don't feel comfortable starting on locking work on the ATM components. If we can remove unused ATM code, that makes the overall task of getting the last bits of the network stack MPSAFE much easier. BTW, have you tried pinging freebsd-net? Robert N M Watson