From nobody Thu Sep 5 12:01:15 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Wzycv0BqXz5Vspy for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2024 12:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Wzyct46BVz4Crh; Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1725537678; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ew2lHE1HSvZmT+6304XESh3oeAul0hsBPE76dKSY9K0=; b=YYQjQ5GiD8uZLKjADoTNS5M8K8UOjjpgVKr7aL4Ha/km95K53MO8YeiWzcdzL+8I4D89zu 22BNtnygIxMoLYVGKkbcJVivtqdJR7CHoHMms3p+nSEB1/cupM86r+GqPACObKoihrzTwP GC0Q+dUr5PnvjploaDKiWS4iMg7SQiZS9RlDBgxO5X8Aj/K4JzcDxtVwYM6hrCOAdodFLQ /zPEL1tFQee3/5cFj9vCl6+W0YsPc74E26z1WjP9H1l3Hz+nvkTlnyxIOlwcMpBMUWEtZ2 C/YMm53JmGfVyXi6ZTzBoHR0U7caGtlcIJTKFzoz38SVzPWVK3IPdEOn6r9PNw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1725537678; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ykw6KRQaxQIj3Rbbho1foFyvVYF6qy8TobcIlhC7Jt37/JRRITW9Wvdi6KmmsklNOK7ax0 uV9fMpsao++kpbO4GTUz9bxF3m925CLmJ5L27VZt8P4q/XgogGF3E9KtdzNq5VuCmsdm6g IqWyeQOT7eXOp5VByBRfS+T+gd0doH4PFEP0Wq0dvFDMCpzRb41PzfmjLKa/m+pV2dfP6K selqeO8dFDG1qiIWk6vf7UDGeF/DRES34YN8/57s15pVwEdQjEv8RK4TdSY8wRGRA4yTET 98pH+YkEBAbu4zUSelvEG4LJaT+XuKpGXbzeocpv+7f5HAIwDAfaR19fEsEnnQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1725537678; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ew2lHE1HSvZmT+6304XESh3oeAul0hsBPE76dKSY9K0=; b=XolKsxqmcW+/XDbtKDrJWWnBxOw4IaBQvBU0CRb5IPuakEfvLULnyr3YudCjTVemSI9QPr VFSMooBPLreIehqlFQpRlwISsMAqwHgf819GuzSfm7juQN44VyfxRq04qRj2iM9q9uJI0h fchLcjoX36WHAV/HuICnzbsS3GnXKXX6PCywzAXfTc62/+TA7acagKFMKXNNTaCvF777Bd tZbmNlYBZw8BYjmn0m8y9Fc8wQeFOfKUHxgfzJWO11q3GlIjM2Gu8OWTgEcNmJUdegKaQu nA21hl8h8XbiXJAW8Nax4s2r/hvXWSLIKmbFbCEs77RN/1Tb7ftW0FU5dWjvSw== Received: from ltc.des.dev (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:386:9c20:922e:16ff:fef1:acef]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Wzyct318rz16LK; Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.dev (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D1A4CBECCF; Thu, 05 Sep 2024 14:01:15 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Tomek CEDRO Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: It's not Rust, it's FreeBSD (and LLVM) In-Reply-To: (Tomek CEDRO's message of "Wed, 4 Sep 2024 18:00:12 +0200") References: <202409031532.483FW0If007252@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2024 14:01:15 +0200 Message-ID: <86h6au2ttg.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tomek CEDRO writes: > The difference in design is better seen on a resulting mobile phones - > all iOS (BSD based) devices have the same base that can be extended > with userland applications, while all Android (Linux based) devices > are completely different (base applications, bundled applications, > icons, even keyboard layout, etc). The percentage of BSD-derived code in iOS rounds to 0. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org