Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:42:35 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt <sos@ravenock.cybercity.dk> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Cc: thomas@ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de, brandon@cold.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what 'dialog' library is used with sysinstall and what not? Message-ID: <199702261442.PAA05200@ravenock.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <26693.856966713@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Feb 26, 97 06:18:33 am"
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In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who wrote:
> > Erhm, what about the somewhat funny license tvision is under ??
> > I dont like that is has been copythefted, the original seems to
> > be free for the taking (Havn't seen any actual Borland docs though)
> > and now pieces are GPL'd :( :(. If this is resolved I have absolutely
>
> Yes, I read the same license stuff and I'm not entirely happy that the
> original Borland stuff isn't easily locatable on the net (unless
> someone has a pointer stashed away) so we can't even really see the
> full extent of the changes, perhaps to diff them out and make them
> into some sort of add-on pack. I'd also be really happy if the author
> would consider some sort of dual copyright arrangement for his
> changes, but frankly I haven't lately had the time or energy to go
> argue it to him so I'm also in no position to judge him over an issue
> I've yet to even discussed with him. As I said to Mr. Clark, if
> someone else with more time/energy than I were to take it upon
> themselves to plead such a case to the author right now, I'd certainly
> not stand in their way.
Hmm, I have looked pretty hard for the sources on the net too, and
have only come up with the 1.x versions, so....
I'm going to try find out what the deal is, we DONT want to use a
lib that Borland afterwards tells us is not for public consumption.
> What's important to me is that I get up to speed on this thing and
> make some PROGRESS right now and right away. The GPL question is not
> particularly exciting to me since, at worst, it represents a net-zero
> movement for me on the GPL usage issue. I throw out one GPL'd
> library, libdialog, and replace it with a partially-GPL'd library,
> libtvision. I've actually probably reduced my amount of GNU code when
> measured by weight, and none would argue that turbovision represents a
> far better byte-for-buck value than libdialog. :-)
yeah yeah :), I'd like us to get rid of ALL GPL code, but you all
know that by now....
> Again, that's not to say that I wouldn't welcome some parallel efforts
> to find a non-GPL alternative to this conversion (or do it over - you
> probably won't like their GPM-inspired interface when you attempt to
> make it work with moused anyway :-), just that I have enough on my plate
> just trying to use the damn thing. My C++ is a little rusty. :)
Hmm, maybe I could learn some C++ too in the process too, I havn't touched
that for a loooong time. And if we are going to use it, I'd better get
support for our mousestuff in there.
I'll go find a virgin turbo vision 2.0 lib and see what they have done
(some of it looks like REAL dirty hacks to me).
Also I've seen refs to graphical versions of it (only in binary of
cause as is the rule in the messydos world, boy do they wear small
shoes over there), that could be an idea for my (slowly progressing)
native HGA/CGA/VGA GUI....
Have you played with any of the CUI designers thats floating around, or
do you use "bare hands" ??
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Even more code to hack -- will it ever end
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