From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 22 6:49:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A969037B400 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [206.196.95.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF49D43E7B for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MDnTY01520; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:49:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id g7MDnTw18089; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:49:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from centtech.com (proton [10.177.173.77]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7MDnPo18082; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:49:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3D64EBE5.5090501@centtech.com> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:49:25 -0500 From: Eric Anderson Reply-To: anderson@centtech.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020508 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: friar_josh@webwarrior.net Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/41865: [PATCH] XFree86 section should document -nolisten tcp option in startx References: <200208221240.g7MCe7eB007052@freefall.freebsd.org> <3D64E095.6050001@centtech.com> <1030005394.226.23.camel@markx.vladsempire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't recall ever seeing it in 4.5-RELEASE. Only with XFree86 4.x have I seen it (on FreeBSD). 4.5-RELEASE defaulted to XFree86 3.3.6, and never had the problem unless you installed XFree86 4.x over it. I missed the documentation on that, my bad. However, when you do an upgrade (binary) of a box, and something like remote X displays stop working, the first thing that crosses your mind is "something is broken", not "I should check the man pages for XFree86, startx, xinit, [insert your wm here], [insert your favorite remote shell program (ie. ssh, rsh, telnet, etc) here], etc". I hit this problem a long time ago putting XFree86 4.2 on a 4.5-RELEASE machine, so it seemed like nothing to me. Only until yesterday when I received a few emails from friends (who now use FreeBSD like it's a drug) asking how to fix it, did it occur to me that there should be more docs on it - they checked the handbook, FAQ, and a few newsgroups - with no good answers. Eric Josh Paetzel wrote: > It might not be a bad idea to sneak the version of X in where it changed, > since there's no reason someone couldn't be running X 3.3.6 with FreeBSD > 4.6. I'm also not sure the change occured in 4.6, I seem to remember > having to deal with this issues in 4.4 or 4.5 maybe. > > I didn't mean to suggest that people change the default startup files > with my initial response, I was pointing out to the originator of the PR > that there was indeed documentation about his issue, but maybe it's a > bit much to suggest one read the man pages for X before running it. ;) > > Josh > > ps yes, I know the faq and handbook are full of information that > duplicates info given in the man page. > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology The moon may be smaller than Earth, but it's further away. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message