From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 15 12:05:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12740 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:05:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12735 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntws (ntws.etinc.com [204.141.95.142]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA05738; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:11:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:11:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199611152011.PAA05738@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Dror Matalon From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: Router Purchase - the bottom line Cc: isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, dennis wrote: > >> >Also, for our customers we're happy with the Ascend Pipeline 130 >> >with built in CSU. You can get one for less than $1200 it does >> >Frame and even has an ISDN line for backup. These units >> >are the same size of a Pipeline 50 -- not much bigger than most >> >modems. Is a Freebsd box with a T1 card and a CSU any cheaper? >> >> This is the same non-thinking argument that has been used for > >You sure have a way with words. thanks! > >> a long time, and it makes no sense bacause you are not comparing >> apples to apples. You still need a server with a standalone router, >> so you have 2 points of failure instead of 1 (with an internal card). > >It makes perfect sense to me. >1. I have a client that has a network they want to hook up to us, they >want to set their mail and web server on an NT, Sun, Mac or whatever >OS.am I going to tell them that they shouldn't do that that they >should use the FreeBSD router that they get from us as their server? >No, I don't. No, but you could get a card for an NT box...this isn't just about FreeBSD. It makes little sense to use freebsd as a 1 goesinto- 1 goesouta router....if your customer is stuck on NT then you have little choice. > >2. If a disk fails on the web server, client machines can still >go to the net. If the router's disk fails all Net services >are dead in the water. Assuming that the router goes down when the disk fails....my Netware servers been up about 2 years now....and it takes an awful lot of punishment. This argument had much more validity in the MFM days....when life was different. Dennis