Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:06:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020904115602.M88455-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <3D7573F0.EDC1196B@mindspring.com>
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Dave Hayes wrote: > > > > It's not the environment that votes, it's the creature that dies. > > > > The environment is fairly static in this case. > > > > > > The environment chooses the creatures which survive. > > > > Why do you insist on reifying nature? Are you a pantheist? > > No. Recognizing that the environment acts upon an individual > doesn't take a pantheist (I guess it also puts the nail in the > coffin of your idea that I am a Monoist... ;^)). I'm not all that committed to classifying you one way or the other. 8-) Actually, it seems that people today tend to be a bit eclectic, so nailing them down on their beliefs is a bit like nailing down water. > > > My personal preference it to analyze the problem, determine > > > the class of problems it represents (if non-unique), and then > > > solve for the set of problems the space represented by the > > > class, do it once, and never have to look back. I hate having > > > to solve the same problem more than once: it's an incredible > > > waste of my time. > > > > Have you solved the problem of induction yet? > > 8-) > > If I had, then you are probably having this conversation with a > computer program. 8-). 8-) > > Consider this hypothesis: > > > > "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all > > ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the > > truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about > > God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. > > For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, > > His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, > > being understood through what has been made, so that they are > > without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not > > honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in > > their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened." > > (Romans 1:18-21) > > It's always easy to argue in third person perfect, because you > never have to take the blame for the ideas, and there's never > an appeal to a contradictory witness to worry about. 8-). Some things are just transcendentally necessary. 8-) > > > > > Not a dodge. My Uncle-by-marriage's sister is the person who > > > dispenses Charles Manson's medication. Some people yanked out > > > out their interface cables before the programming was complete. > > > > Can't go there, remember? There is no Programmer, hence no > > programming. > > 8-) > > That's "Programmer", not "programmer". 8-). Um...yeah, like I said. 8-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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