From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jan 29 21:47:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B0C37B401 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7405643E4A for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:47:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from temperanza@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 15542 invoked by uid 417); 30 Jan 2003 05:47:47 -0000 Received: from tap-.softhome.net (HELO jive.SoftHome.net) (172.16.2.22) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 05:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 23343 invoked by uid 417); 30 Jan 2003 05:47:46 -0000 Received: from adsl-63-194-84-111.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO dsl-63-194-84-111.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) (63.194.84.111) by 192.168.0.30 with SMTP; 30 Jan 2003 05:47:46 -0000 Received: from tomoyo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:47:49 -0800 (PST)dsl-63-194-84-111.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h0U5lncH082020 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:47:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from temperanza@softhome.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:47:49 -0800 From: La Temperanza To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: About the ports bureaucracy Message-Id: <20030129214749.5a71f32b.temperanza@softhome.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.9 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd like to ask any committers around not to take this personally in advance; it's just my two cents, and I expect it's going to sound more inflammatory then I intended. However, if you want to call me a stupid n00b anyway, I won't deny it. ^_^ I've noticed for a while that many PRs in the ports section, particulary involving lesser-used applications, seem to sit around for months and months. These include maintainer updates and unbreakage patches, so I don't think I'm just looking at the incorrectly done or low-priority ones in the lot. I figured the most flattering explanation for this happening is that the ports committers are simply overwhelmed by the number of PRs and concentrate their efforts on the most important ones. I decided I'd like to help out, and sent an e-mail to the team asking how I could become a committer. Apparently you submit high-quality PRs until someone notices you and invites you to join the club. But if there are more PRs being submitted then they can deal with, isn't that just sort of silly? I understand the need to have someone trustworthy look over the PRs and make sure their suggested changes actually work, but I think that some of the testing & other grunt work could be delegated to less privilaged users while the committers concentrate on what only they can do- getting the good stuff into the ports tree. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message