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Grimes" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CJmrH73PTz4b8F X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.4.0/24, country:US] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 05:34:56 -0000 > On Oct 24, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Rodney W. Grimes = wrote: >=20 >>>=20 >>> Something feels very wrong about this becoming a defined path in = base, >>> it is further dependence on /usr/local which in the early days we = spent >>> a great deal of time removing. >>>=20 >>> I believe the whole ports system allows this to be something other >>> than /usr/local. Package should also allow it to be some other = place. >>>=20 >>=20 >> This removes a couple of instances of /usr/local being hardcoded and >> replaces with a define, so net it's better. >=20 > No, its net worse as it now creates a define that is highly likely > to propogate adding additional dependencies on this value. >=20 You said a bunch of words, but I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish or what action can be taken. >>=20 >> It could be even better, but this is slightly better than it was = before. >=20 > I disagree, as it is now easier for additional contamination of > the base system. >=20 Disagreement without action is a waste of time. Stefan proposed this change several days ago to the arch mailing list, = and I view it as a good first step to the end goal of making the cal system = more flexible and less dependent on a data source that=E2=80=99s fixed in = place. It=E2=80=99ll likely evolve more over time, as software projects do. Simply arguing that you disagree with it or with the people involved doesn=E2=80=99t help this = process. Please consider ways to be more productive in your communication. As with = others recently, you are coming across as being obstructing as disagreeable. Scott