From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 16 15:09:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32393CE12BA for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FED118B6 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 0C419CE12B9; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE8BCE12B8 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9ADBB18B5 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id 196so4041791wmm.1 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:09:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V0ePHKfVSt7vPUXzq1LV/xtFKGs0RoN+rlz0rWF2alc=; b=IdejDYHKHH0lp68cTffuyYfbLlJYUJzr8aa92ya1Xh7VvF1ZrVODvNc4zJRomnHyYH e5ImdGTSnYRJbSOm3++2oXKvdb+bCjNK3zu3LX2x2SI2AX0nTkzHuGpRTZcOjU82moy1 lVjKIHXx5WNE/b1O3QIVfwXVTGj1bFHHHbitMtxAF9jjO18OXe9fuFs0RfbU96UmmRMc yz6/vMbFHaH1/ZFDHbHA6E4HEkDpOV75lhxvtdnOpsiFyPU1Qhhhhm3AL5du7Vh5Oa0S wTynHjH9KLV4aioZOVC0aLCg/Mf38VoK0Fe1hTaOQv77ryNdKi2TTSFnCTJdzLsUKbkz SElA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=V0ePHKfVSt7vPUXzq1LV/xtFKGs0RoN+rlz0rWF2alc=; b=TH2QTjz034ltwRdZpLwzsXCFKycP5ejnxTKygSm6IwtURCc+PeC0T+xn3ILNbqsDnQ bZqu1NQkl5iaEbMaq2Dp9GRpEbMK127zh+dN2UO+WV3RkmiDkISgYcwF960of8ZWeXoX OqWMgumE7eKsIF/JdxLYIzFjAK6hGGJ1pN5bgEXdDgovdBWUM1cctB9RcmlmDmUZHqA8 VXMID+TUX/zLm1iMGsxbXslHzEJNRmlQHDbxlR5YwCJWoD6NUeGubkxFRIReY0bfSSXC 2BWPlwarInlxOC48t1iFNuqpFJcrWMJBgtiCO1EO5pPPmtZClRv73bqqEKldNzcU8yuc Vz8w== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39kcfQyXHRuAJHr/gVeAm5jqV7xQb0Vi6LPuLAeB3q1qFL9ji0DjOvz4/snuf2vPew== X-Received: by 10.28.216.130 with SMTP id p124mr2796658wmg.58.1487257747881; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([94.5.114.10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b34sm7183226wra.4.2017.02.16.07.09.06 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:09:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:09:05 +0000 From: RW To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port management tools (was: Status of synth) Message-ID: <20170216150905.4c76175a@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <6115a896-7e90-ce22-6355-ed1bb7e02ada@m5p.com> References: <201702160844.v1G8iiRP000405@gw.catspoiler.org> <6115a896-7e90-ce22-6355-ed1bb7e02ada@m5p.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:09:10 -0000 On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:19:24 -0500 George Mitchell wrote: > > Yeah, I really like this a lot more than going through all the > > config screens. Back when I used portupgrade, I found that it was > > too easy to accidentally set some option for a port to a > > non-default value where it would persist forever. [...] > > This is in a nutshell why one group of FreeBSD users love portmaster > so much. I switched from portugrade to portmaster a long time ago > for this very reason. Do you mean because you didn't want to type "-c"?