From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:11:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BBB106566C; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C6A8FC08; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (omta005 [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id p2HFAjOw016653; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:11:03 -0700 Received: from sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (lb009-10-float.sj2.proofpoint.com [172.16.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net with ESMTP id v3m27gep8-1; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:11:03 -0700 X-Eon-Dm: sj1-dm103 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - cde8da6a) id sj1-dm103.4d75101f.2d3123; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:10:59 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQNtR3BNgiSDsgh/PgIAAAAD,d7cf67b33e406d8ae110cc1c417a7645 Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:10:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:10:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.basicisp.net To: Krutov Mikle In-Reply-To: <20110317144200.GA28942@takino.org> Message-ID: References: <20110317144200.GA28942@takino.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103170074 Cc: Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:11:04 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Krutov Mikle wrote: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 03:32:59PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: >> On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote: >>> Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off in >>> ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global >>> default? >>> >>> Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without >>> having a configuration switch? >> >> Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? It's the only >> cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which handles >> device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. >> > Hi Ivan! > As for me, it is like a habit: > I've installed Xorg + HAL for the first time; > I've seen that my config is ignored; > I disabled HAL by-default in make.conf > :) Setting FORBIDDEN in the HAL port helps to avoid accidentally installing hal as can easily happen. The gstreamer plugin pseudoports have something that installs hal and breaks Firefox so any mouse click kills it. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266