From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 20 1:19:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 20 01:19:54 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC2037B400; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 01:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9987357487; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:19:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:19:54 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: Thomas Runge Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: StrongARM support? Message-ID: <20001220031954.A19117@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" Mail-Followup-To: "Michael C . Wu" , Thomas Runge , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-small@freebsd.org References: <20001219125657.A94588@peorth.iteration.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from runge@rostock.zgdv.de on Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 08:59:11AM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5025 F691 F943 8128 48A8 5025 77CE 29C5 8FA1 2E20 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x8FA12E20 Sender: keichii@peorth.iteration.net Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 08:59:11AM +0100, Thomas Runge scribbled: | On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Michael C . Wu wrote: | | > many people) My understanding is that FreeBSD *wants* a FreeBSD/ARM, | > but lack the resources/man-power to do so. I'd prefer to see an | | There is a german saying "Schuster, bleib bei Deinen Leisten", which | means something like "Only do, what you are good at". FreeBSD is good | at the i386 side. Crossplatform is not really one of FreeBSD's | strongest sides. | | Thats where NetBSD is *the* player. And there is a port to that | Compaq ipaq thingy almost finished. And to RiscPC and | DNARD (Shark) and CATS and Acorn A7000 and some intel developer | boards, just to mention (Strong)ARM based systems supported | by NetBSD. It was my understanding from BSDCon2000 that we are targeting more platforms. Let's not cling to traditions. Windows/MacOS has a more popular GUI than X-win, so we should not use X-win and just have console applications? And let's face it, x86 embedded systems sometimes do not do well for some applications. I refuse to believe that we should live in the safe nest of x86-32 only. There is also a Chinese saying "learning is like rowing a boat upstream; if you do not advance, you will go backwards." If we stay in the x86 market forever, then we are limited in growth by the architecture. (x86-32 is approaching the end of its life in a few years, right?) | At the end a FreeBSD port will be based on the NetBSD port. Why | should we split the BSD camp even more? Split what? There is no split as far as I can see. FreeBSD/ARM can help NetBSD/ARM, and vice versa. It might even help the BSD camps converge. It all depends on how you look at the glass of water. Is it half empty or is it half full? -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message