From owner-freebsd-toolchain@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 28 20:25:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: toolchain@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DEA459; Tue, 28 May 2013 20:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E4037C; Tue, 28 May 2013 20:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r4SKPgGn052533; Tue, 28 May 2013 13:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r4SKPgLu052532; Tue, 28 May 2013 13:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 13:25:42 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Rui Paulo Subject: Re: [CFT] gcc: support for barcelona Message-ID: <20130528202542.GA52507@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <51A38CBD.6000702@FreeBSD.org> <51A3B8AB.5080808@FreeBSD.org> <521EEFA1-E116-41F5-B618-238E7AA092A8@bsdimp.com> <3C29AD82-077D-4E6B-94C7-5D069A130348@FreeBSD.org> <20130528195457.GA52250@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: amd64@FreeBSD.org, toolchain@FreeBSD.org, Pedro Giffuni X-BeenThere: freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Maintenance of FreeBSD's integrated toolchain List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 20:25:44 -0000 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 01:01:00PM -0700, Rui Paulo wrote: > On 28 May 2013, at 12:54, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:10:23PM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: > >> On 28 May 2013, at 18:40, Warner Losh wrote: > >> > >>> That's not going to happen soon. While it works OK for amd64, there's still many bugs in its ARM support and even more in its MIPS support. There's 0 chance it will be gone in 10... > >> > >> I disagree. There is a significant chance that gcc in base > >> will be gone for all Tier 1 platforms in 10.0. There are > >> still some reasons to want gcc installed, but there are no > >> compelling reasons to want an ancient version of gcc installed > >> on x86[-64] or ARM. For people who need gcc, the ports > >> collection provides a selection of recent versions. > >> > > > > I surely hope not! Until the individuals pushing the > > change to clang actually tests clang on floating point > > intensive applications, it is IMHO dubious to even have > > clang as the default compiler. Just the latest example: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-numerics/2013-May/000354.html > > Have you, or anyone else, filed bug reports at http://llvm.org/bugs/ ? > I haven't submitted this bug. Given the attention that another bug that I pointed out, I have little interest in submitting other bugs. Ed Schouten submitted the bug report after I pointed out clang cannot do complex arithmetic correctly under certain circumstances. http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8532 -- Steve