From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 7 8:52:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98AE37B403; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g57Fqhl3083542; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:52:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stable@ei.bzerk.org) Received: (from stable@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g57Fqgm6083541; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:52:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:52:42 +0200 From: Ruben To: Jamie Heckford Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4 Message-ID: <20020607175242.A83475@ei.bzerk.org> References: <200206071447.g57ElqBZ001996@intruder.bmah.org> <012601c20e32$c92c6a00$4464a8c0@JAMIEHECKFORD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <012601c20e32$c92c6a00$4464a8c0@JAMIEHECKFORD>; from jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk on Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 03:51:20PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 03:51:20PM +0100, Jamie Heckford typed: > Hi, > > Not sure if this is planned or if it has been done... but is there any > chance we can have sendmail > removed (In the next release cycle - or -current) from a base installation > completly perl style? Definitely not in 4.x, that would be a severe violation of POLA. > > Jamie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce A. Mah" > To: "Kenneth Mays" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4 > > > > If memory serves me right, "Kenneth Mays" wrote: > > > > > My only request is that we get to test these applications and > > > have some of them become the default applications in the base system: > > > > Hi Ken-- > > > > Thanks for the feedback, but it's way too late to be suggesting feature > > improvements for 4.6-RELEASE. The time to make suggestions like this is > > at the start of the release cycle, not the end. Please see the schedule > > for 4.6-RELEASE: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/schedule.html > > > > The releases are not about making newer versions of programs available > > for testing. They're about making available the best-tested, most > > dependable code we're able to provide, within engineering and logistical > > constraints. If you want to test new stuff *and* you can deal with > > possible breakage, try -STABLE or -CURRENT. > > > > That being said, many of the programs you've listed are already in the > > ports collection that will ship with 4.6-RELEASE. They might not be > > identical to what might eventually show up in the base system (due to > > some changes, bugfixes, etc. that get made by our developers when > > integrating them). > > > > > 1. NTP 4.1.1a > > > > /usr/ports/net/ntp > > > > > 2. Sendmail 8.12.4 > > > > Very recent...I didn't even know this existed until a couple days back. > > It was added to the ports collection after the ports freeze. > > > > > 3. tar 1.13.25 or whatever is the most updated 'stable' version. > > > > /usr/ports/archivers/gtar > > > > > 4. GCC 2.95.3 & 3.1 selections in GUI (whatever is the most reliable) > > > > /usr/ports/lang/gcc295 > > /usr/ports/lang/gcc31 > > > > > 5. OpenSSH 3.2.3 and OpenSSL 0.9.6c/d > > > > That OpenSSH release is pretty recent. I don't think it made the ports > > freeze either. > > > > /usr/ports/security/openssl > > > > > 6. Samba 2.2.4 > > > > Not in the base system. > > > > /usr/ports/net/samba > > > > > 7. Nvidia recent drivers (test these with Xfree86 4.2.x) on > Quadro/geforce > > > boards > > > > Don't know about these. If we ship them, it'd be in ports, not the > > base system. > > > > > I just notice that this was some of the current issues we are having > besides > > > the basic/advanced base system testing. Some of this was already done > but > > > listed here for reference. > > > > > > I know FreeBSD isn't intended to be a Solaris 9 for the free world (or > is > > > it?!?) and I know we all have problems with hardware issues (the most > > > common). Is there an easier way to put all our issues together in a > simple > > > doc to compile the information needed to make improvements for the 4.6 > > > release?!? > > > > I'm sorry, I don't understand these two paragraphs. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Bruce. > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message