From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Dec 18 18:18: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EBC37B41A for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0252.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.252] helo=mindspring.com) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16GWIz-0000UY-00; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:18:01 -0800 Message-ID: <3C1FF8DA.2DBC501C@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:18:02 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft Advocacy? References: <003701c18819$a9941a20$6600000a@ach.domain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Andrew C. Hornback" wrote: > > Hey folks, > > I thought this was FreeBSD-Advocacy... not what appears to be Microsoft > Copyright, Patent, Trademark and Service mark discussion. Anthony is pretty much here (and on -chat) as a Microsoft appologist and advocate. Basically, it's OK for FreeBSD to be anywhere Microsoft doesn't currently want, but if you try and push it somewhere they've peed (or Apple tries to push it in one of those places), then it's "obviously ill suited, and can never be made to work" (paraphrasing). When I attended the Microsoft Active SErver Design Preview for my (then) company, it was incredibly amusing to watch the various Microsoft groups present. They would come in, tell you the part of the pie they owned, and then present a list of where third parties had opportunity to add value. Only when all the various Microsoft groups were done presenting, they had totally mapped the problem space with Microsoft products, so there was _no_ room for third parties to add value. You'd think they would have had a meeting before the presentations and at least carved out a token "safe area" of the playground, a sand box or swing set, where third parties were allowed to play. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message