From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 18 12:22:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C9016A4B3 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdead.mooseriver.com (gdead.mooseriver.com [205.166.121.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8B843F75 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@gdead.mooseriver.com) Received: from gdead.mooseriver.com (localhost.mooseriver.com [127.0.0.1]) h8IJMOaF069982; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@gdead.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by gdead.mooseriver.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h8IJMOIg069981; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:22:24 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20030918192224.GA69753@gdead.mooseriver.com> References: <20030918183032.GB1058@perilith.com> <20030918183224.GM389@submonkey.net> <20030918184228.GA1594@perilith.com> <3F6A024C.5030307@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F6A024C.5030307@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org cc: a clever sheep Subject: Re: this verisign wildcard silliness X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:22:25 -0000 On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:06:52PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > a clever sheep wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 07:32:24PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > >>Well, you could phone them and ask them to stop serving your IP block, > >>but since they run gtld-servers.net that would cut you off from half of > >>the Internet. > > > >clearly that's not an option. > > > >i'm just curious how they'd respond to irate-end-user-with-lawyer > >calling and saying that they never agreed to these terms or this privacy > >policy and they want it to go away. it would be pretty technically > >challenging for verisign if they had to do that. > > It makes me wish I had money lying around to hire a lawyer just to > piss off Verisign. > > I already have a MAJOR bone to pick with Verisign (have for several > years) and this infuriates me even more. If I can find an avenue > to complain, I will. > > Is there some organization that is over Verisign that I could file > a complaint with? You could try complaining to ICANN but I don't think you and I combined have enough money to warrant notice. If you are a big, rich company ICANN will let you do anything you want. If not, all you will get is a "Bugger off". Verisign is my proof of this. Notice that through this whole thing we have not heard a peep out of ICANN. Vixie has noticed, all the screaming fingers on Slashdot have noticed. Basicly every geek I know or know of has been going on about this. ICANN is completely silent. So much for independent oversight. What was the name of the guy who, a few years ago, tried to start his own tld? He is starting to look less like a crackpot. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 5.1 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca.