From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat May 4 01:52:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712FF15A17B5 for ; Sat, 4 May 2019 01:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x741.google.com (mail-qk1-x741.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::741]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E22056B049 for ; Sat, 4 May 2019 01:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x741.google.com with SMTP id n68so949771qka.1 for ; Fri, 03 May 2019 18:52:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2ue7cnCuWHpdbd41heapZJ20CT6WKYrJEAW6DfugI7A=; b=00aD9DXjHk9nucPCpQqV898MXAel1pjK7UUF2gsUF7my35PdfJhdxK5tq3PwUEbKeH ADsseeQHuYWAL0lQsdvcGywBVoiMzG/AVUJHODxqXUAUNe3MwB6AC4foE34WOwLQbUPR Sy/ScXYjeV6uEmqEgTApzH04OmjgYWVEBTjMuaFT0d1QZvXxDXOULNqdDb+wr7KkISRA sSXdl+DKKpRXReNgSxGJLp3mIjrqg92Yg/9YkPfynccJF1A6Lj+sqJtjXu/ZV9ra0PWB Nd/wGFTYwPSsUSfMXkQxsFZgK4XP24bcRnD86GUCg42mQMIzclVDd/EMgk0P8r27ETRJ pIJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2ue7cnCuWHpdbd41heapZJ20CT6WKYrJEAW6DfugI7A=; b=syegpPQNs+qdWHBIdp/zHtXu4hTyLUvCNz3C0wFL+qUiaOI4lLGKLkzhtKjoQw0Xui 5ObCXtij0/QuZOpSj+W/LJvas6h+cxmJmH3MoMt7FK7vCaOXul6puAOK5w7KNDkzE83O 4E6+LfcjHUley/7D4YSImUtNefd8LDvgEWcBPYIISuWT2rLr6xrAuMl1vdDhphD86/R+ FrnOw9m5K6ovYWBdYALIumYiqg+q22ujaDmVshFe7k/Qw3frwcoOQphuYPN6Dwx+hQHD 3gqPouO4k0izCG8Q0X8kqeKcmmHqOUt+HVGZR0SB6hMxrp2oUiffspIwkjAptK8vPvsF 6oQg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV/3sME0ULiQdDhg6oqMk2r2xH+K7jwf2mO2Rau3TLODwPv/zl7 aqq4R6tJ3rxFlrBLq4d3IkkILfJqmFKLnO/oSlkGQA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwQLBvWgbXwHxnmSLQ/bZV9AYJM/g2xpTew3yPtz6ucgQdzwn2F1R4aTLY7ZmWMbxjfBWiEUK1qBAuDQZYAckQ= X-Received: by 2002:a37:9747:: with SMTP id z68mr11058874qkd.245.1556934761251; Fri, 03 May 2019 18:52:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190503171517.GE19873@FreeBSD.org> <201905031806.x43I6FXf093604@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20190504013934.GA26932@www.zefox.net> In-Reply-To: <20190504013934.GA26932@www.zefox.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 19:52:29 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New vm-image size is much smaller than previos To: bob prohaska Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Glen Barber , Enji Cooper , Alan Somers , David Boyd , FreeBSD CURRENT X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E22056B049 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=00aD9DXj X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.63 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.912,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ALT1.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx.l.google.com,ALT2.aspmx.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.71)[ip: (1.96), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.21), asn: 15169(-2.25), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 May 2019 01:52:43 -0000 On Fri, May 3, 2019, 7:42 PM bob prohaska wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 11:06:15AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > -- Start of PGP signed section. > > > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 10:12:58AM -0700, Enji Cooper wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 3, 2019, at 9:57 AM, Alan Somers > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > See r346959. Before first boot, you should expand the image up to > > > > > whatever size you want. growfs(8) will automatically expand the > file > > > > > system. > > > > > -Alan > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 10:32 AM David Boyd > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> The vm-image for 13.0-CURRENT > > > > >> > > > > >> FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20190503-r347033.vmdk > > > > >> > > > > >> is only 4.0 GB in size. Previous images were about 31.0 GB. > > > > >> > > > > >> This smaller image doesn't leave much room to add packages and > other > > > > >> customizations. > > > > > > > > This probably deserves a release note. > > > > > > It will certainly be mentioned in the 11.3 release notes. > > > > And those running head snapshots without reading commit messages > > are likely to have lots of foot shooting. > > > > > Glen > > -- > > Rod Grimes > rgrimes@freebsd.org > > At the risk of being branded a wishful thinker, a firstboot script that > asked the user for some configuration information would be a great help > to both new and experienced foot-shooters. I'm thinking of Raspberry Pi, > but perhaps it applies to non-embedded platforms also. > That's not a bad idea... we could press bsdinstall into service for that perhaps... we already expand the partition / filesystem to match the media size... The original FreeBSD install program (the one by Jordan Hubbard) did a > very serviceable job. Could it (the user interface) be resurrected? > Unlikely. It's too far bit rotted these days. It was extremely tailored to the i386 env, and a lot has changed since we retired it. This is an interesting idea. It seems like it wouldn't be too hard to prototype. Warner Thanks for reading, > > bob prohaska > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >