From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Mar 20 6:22:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DDC14F52 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 06:22:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26674; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:22:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd026666; Sat Mar 20 07:22:33 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06712; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:22:32 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199903201422.HAA06712@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Netscape browser To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:22:32 +0000 (GMT) Cc: brett@lariat.org, seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <52175.921875299@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 19, 99 12:28:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I thought that we were here to discuss real-life issues. Uh, no, it's to discuss marketing. 8-). > In real-life, just having FreeBSD emulation for Linux by no > means gets people to suddenly rush to produce FreeBSD binaries > because, as I said before, the incentive just isn't there and it isn't > there because of NUMBERS, nothing that you or I can change overnight. Right. You would probably need to provide a full-on developement kit as RPM's and whatever other packaging stuff there is on the Linux distributions you target. Such a kit would produce "Linux" binaries, but "file" would recognize them as FreeBSD. > It's also a point which is undoubtedly moot since I don't see anyone > capable of doing the actual work to implement such a thing emerging > from the woodwork anywhere. SEF would be a good candidate, if you could way-lay him. Or Soren. Brett is spot-on about it being a job best suited to past successful emulator writers to act as tech lead and to track the binary changes. > Various people in the Linux world have looked at this problem at > various times, if for no reason other than to shut us up about the > emulation issue, and they've all concluded that It Would Be Hard - > too hard to contemplate for such a nebulous gain. With respect, there is a difference between a software engineer and a programmer. This job needs a software engineer. I'm unfortunately overcommitted on basic technology reference implementations and IETF drafts at this point. You need an engineer to design it; once that's done, programmers can take on the task of implementing the design. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message