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Date:      Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:36:34 -0700
From:      Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net>
To:        Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: 10.1-BETA3 and powerpc64/GENERIC64 PowerMac G5 with ATI Radeon X1950 support: broken at boot time now...
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I tried the 1920x1200 display instead of the 2560x1440 one and it then =
worked. I should have thought of that test.

10.1-BETA2 used the whole screen for 2560x1440, although for a while the =
far right hand side would show the start of the next line as well =
(buffer width wrap). I prefer 10.1-BETA2's behavior for the size issue =
to what happens now under 10.1-BETA3 (useless display).

But (new experiment) the 2560x1440 display works when the card is a =
GeForce 7800 GT instead of the Radeon X1950 (same boot SSD, same type of =
PowerMac G5: Quad core). For the 7800 GT it just uses a small area in =
the middle as the console instead of trying to use the whole display. =
(Too bad it is as small as it is but it does work. I'd not be able to =
see all the text from my early-crash DDB dumps in the little area used. =
For now having lots of lines during boot is important for my context.)

(Xorg does not seem to handle the X1950, leaving console mode as the =
only option with that card. I can revert to another 7800 GT if I decide =
it is appropriate.)


=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
markmi@dsl-only.net

On Sep 30, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> =
wrote:

What is your screen resolution? I suspect you are overflowing vt's =
early-boot framebuffer area. syscons is not supported on PS3, but you =
can remove PS3 from your kernel configuration to use it on powermacs.
-Nathan

On 09/29/14 03:21, Mark Millard wrote:
> 10.1-BETA3 powerpc64/GENERIC64 on PowerMac G5 with a 'Chipset: "ATI =
Radeon X1950" (ChipID =3D 0x7240)' card with vt: boot text is only a =
couple of pixels high/wide. Unreadable. Repeat the visual pattern across =
the screen (across, not down). [Note: This is not an Xorg/xfce4 issue in =
any way.]
>=20
> And it appeared to be stopping very early every time so I've no clue =
what it was reporting.
>=20
>=20
> Context (uname -a taken from a working boot context for the same SSD, =
see later):
>=20
> FreeBSD FBSDG5M1 10.1-BETA3 FreeBSD 10.1-BETA3 #28 r272167M: Mon Sep =
29 02:34:31 PDT 2014     root@FBSDG5M1:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC64  =
powerpc
>=20
> Options DDB and GDB added to GENERIC64. WITH_DEBUG_FILES=3D =
WITHOUT_CLANG=3D WITH_DEBUG=3D in /etc/make.conf . DDB default script =
hack for dumping early-boot crash information. Added db_trace_self() =
call executed during first openfirmware_core call with MMU programmed. =
(So just before the classic before-copyright hang where OF_peer(0) fails =
fairly frequently.)
>=20
> (That is the same context as for the prior 10.1-BETA2 activity. =
10.1-BETA2 did not have this problem for this context.)
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I tried reverting to using sc in GENERIC64 using the same 5 lines or =
so for sc that are in GENERIC. But it got build failure: ps3fb_remap was =
missing because ps3_syscons.c was not compiled.
>=20
> That in turn was because sys/conf/files.powerpc listed =
"powerpc/ps3/ps3_syscons.c optional ps3 vt" (indicating it was not =
needed for syscons builds?). I changed that to =
"powerpc/ps3/ps3_syscons.c optional ps3 vt | ps3 sc" and tried again.
>=20
> More such sys/conf/files.powerpc and/or sys/conf/files issues showed =
up preventing building for sc.
>=20
> I gave up on being able to build powerpc64/GENERIC64 for sc directly =
and rebuilt again with vt (despite the boot results for the Radeon =
context).
>=20
> (I have a 10.1-BETA2 /boot/kernel.good/kernel to use in a manual =
unload then load /boot/kernel.good/kernel then boot sequence from from =
not letting the G5 time out and autoboot. 10.1-BETA3's world seems to =
tolerate 10.1-BETA2's kernel. Otherwise this would have been a lot =
messier to deal with.)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> A contrasting context that worked okay... GeForce 7800 GT based =
powerpc64/GENERIC64 PowerMac G5.
>=20
> In this case the initial variant tried was: no use of =
WITH_DEBUG_FILES=3D WITHOUT_CLANG=3D WITH_DEBUG=3D or of source code =
hacks for early-boot-crash information. But still adding options DDB and =
GDB. So...
>=20
> FreeBSD FBSDG5M0 10.1-BETA3 FreeBSD 10.1-BETA3 #2 r272167M: Mon Sep 29 =
01:24:54 PDT 2014     root@FBSDG5M0:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC64  =
powerpc
>=20
> Index: /usr/src/sys/powerpc/conf/GENERIC64
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> --- /usr/src/sys/powerpc/conf/GENERIC64	(revision 272167)
> +++ /usr/src/sys/powerpc/conf/GENERIC64	(working copy)
> @@ -76,6 +76,8 @@
>  # Debugging support.  Always need this:
>  options 	KDB			# Enable kernel debugger =
support.
>  options 	KDB_TRACE		# Print a stack trace for a =
panic.
> +options 	DDB
> +options 	GDB
>    # Make an SMP-capable kernel by default
>  options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor =
Kernel
>=20
>=20
>=20
> But simply moving the earlier SSD (once rebuilt) from the Radeon =
PowerMac G5 (where it failed to display right or boot) to the GeForce =
based G5 resulted in normal text and a completed boot.
>=20
> It looks like the problem here is tied to Radeons, or possibly to the =
model of Radeon (X1950). I may put back the other NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT =
and not try to involve a PowerMac G5 Radeon in my activities for now.
>=20
> [The before-Copyright crash still happens randomly. None of this is =
directly about that issue.]
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D
> Mark Millard
> markmi at dsl-only.net
>=20
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