From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 29 13:51:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC63B29B for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x233.google.com (mail-pd0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81A752D0 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f179.google.com with SMTP id w10so6057929pde.10 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 06:51:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=goodking.ca; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=XgPrC0wzm/I6Qq1x7hXNZa8MZNGEfznIXQcNdI81oZ4=; b=JwZkvcUnO+F2GIxUHYRxCOfXBMLIk3YOurr9VxSKOAYHLDZrlue0vDLDfjmYMineQk 0pQosWzzpQ87c6Tp3farzRkTqfZbZKAp7rN5arhEF+xWEM2ymEpwPvGupCFalIEDDv6+ p3Kni+Nte5t7zXb5nykkFPEeGBxUarx6IJqHU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=XgPrC0wzm/I6Qq1x7hXNZa8MZNGEfznIXQcNdI81oZ4=; b=FhXPCpErIkfU814gTyw7rJFPlZ5IgXD/JlGipEg9F2sB2tOtqYSAAJyLCVnHwnAn+Q yiDGJcWFzlPoKOpndB5kkmaqPwZaJqdEV5x+LKMSqJxBWAr1OyPjbnLnSHivv6lEXfqc 70UqXaSCUrJN1r0rCKz4+bIvy63vQ5s5RN0OIFtL8Ep6sJw7Xg8Br7GZF5VbLA9TYtKP SVTto4bd1fr0T6N+BYt07mUG8B3OPJbIyke56ho2AYqL1RYFTPazRpKh8HNEFBcxpBGC RzhwHcbOfcCRz7kRYcLYiD8rcEngCwuAoCXPgpqu2WxIR3ui/k0h+P+OSfDqG98SlwRu B49w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlY9bU3Vp+gL4btyDVB9MyYVaAqDK5hpzzo4pFYtQrily45wv1nLmOFcttLtUZyL3NFsAn/ X-Received: by 10.66.249.233 with SMTP id yx9mr14402090pac.3.1396101113546; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 06:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goodking.ca (abthorpe.org. [2607:f2f8:a464::2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kc9sm31628575pbc.25.2014.03.29.06.51.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 06:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:51:49 -0400 From: Thomas Abthorpe To: Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: LPPL10 license consequences intended? (arabic/arabtex) Message-ID: <20140329135149.GC21162@goodking.ca> References: <532DC88A.7010104@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-URL: http://www.abthorpe.org/ X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe/tabthorpe.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xD9371097A473C990 X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: D883 2D7C EB78 944A 69FC 36A6 D937 1097 A473 C990 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: "ports@FreeBSD.org Ports" , Nicola Vitale , marino@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:51:54 -0000 --FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:27:07PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:29 AM, John Marino = wrote: >=20 > > In December, Nicola set the license for Arabtex to LPPL10. > > The result is that the port is no longer packagable: > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D>> Ignoring arabic/arabtex: License LPPL10 needs confirma= tion, but > > BATCH is defined > > > build of /usr/ports/arabic/arabtex ended at Mon Mar 17 16:12:44 PDT 2= 014 > > > > From a quick conversation on IRC, I got the idea that the license was > > correct and many more Tex packages should also have this license. > > If/when that happens, does that mean Tex packages are only to be built > > from source? > > > > Is it correct that LPPL10 can't be built in a batch? > > The impact for DPorts is pretty high because a requirement for a dport > > is that it can produce a binary package so right now it looks like I > > have to prune arabtex. > > > > John > > >=20 > Aside from any possible impact of the license, the Makefile contains: > NO_BUILD=3D yes > so it ill never be packaged and redistributed. This is not an artifact of > the license and I don't know of the license would also block packaging. >=20 >=20 > I just read over LPPL and it i pretty clear that "Compiled Work" (i.e. the > binary code) may be redistributed: >=20 > 3. You may distribute a Compiled Work that has been generated from a > complete, unmodified copy of the Work as distributed under Clause 2 > above, as long as that Compiled Work is distributed in such a way that > the recipients may install the Compiled Work on their system exactly > as it would have been installed if they generated a Compiled Work > directly from the Work. >=20 > Looking at the port, I see exactly NO modifications to the "Work". This > assumes that arabtex is, itself, part of the official "Distribution" of t= he > "Current Maintainers". It may be that it is, in fact, a "Derived Work", n= ot > officially blessed by the "Current Maintainers". In that case it could not > be packaged under the terms of clause 3 (quoted above), but other LPPL > ports that are part of the official "Work" could be. >=20 > "Derived Work" may be redistributed as "Compiled Work" if certain > conditions are met. See clause 6 which is quite long and I am not confide= nt > that I understand. (In fact, I'm quite confident that I don't fully > understand it.) >=20 > IANAL, but the text is pretty clear. I just have not spent the time to > confirm whether arabtex is "Work" of the project or "Derived Work" of the > official "Distribution". (Note that quoted terms are legally defined terms > in the license.) > --=20 > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com The usual conditions that to build silently _LICENSE_PERMS_DEFAULT=3D dist-mirror dist-sell pkg-mirror pkg-sell auto-ac= cept The LPPL* stuff has the provisio _LICENSE_PERMS_LPPL10=3D dist-mirror dist-sell Likewise, IANAL, but having read through the license multiple times over now, it propose that we probably could drop the specific perms in favour of the default perms. Anybody who IAL care to comment ;) Thomas --=20 Thomas Abthorpe | FreeBSD Committer tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe --FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTNs/1AAoJENk3EJekc8mQysoH/3cEZBGsC1pG/VJu1EFquIa2 qarPVLPRqGntfR1xy/JhHPy8RG/mMsCK8JhQ1Jw7AQXMMEdEmAYqyJ9YLW8vDJB+ J4vS9fX9e3RfmPiztvWDl2y2Q2YtcBSleHm3KLlJqCkJxVuuJEyFu0KlepJr3bdI I4TNi9wzO3HgiQJHQYHLk1IbaPww4PVOiifKqeXLdJK7Vg3PEIhmTTLKhLd76Ai2 pMAJVvLLisLd1IttyhtHilFh4iLGg+o3RzLKdMdJkQCNcJrkVUZdrU2YLgPISY6Q zSQvNlru6A3fLf2wBkgdZbyMYqF8K/oD5iAGJZrWdLjeTPhs2pOQCPvI253PvmE= =jfp3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FsscpQKzF/jJk6ya--