From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 3 18:57:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D10316A41F for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:57:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@101.net) Received: from 101.net (fargo.101.net [24.215.1.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B31043D45 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:57:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@101.net) Received: (qmail 1610 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2006 13:57:33 -0500 Received: from brickwall.transact.bm (HELO INFOCAST) (207.2.99.12) by 192.168.53.61 with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 13:57:33 -0500 From: "RH Lists " To: "'DSA - JCR'" , Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 14:57:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <1621.217.114.136.133.1136295524.squirrel@llca513-a.servidoresdns.net> Thread-Index: AcYQawUdER4RhaFLTA2lWL19WLHu3AAKjTRQ X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0601-1, 03/01/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20060103185748.6B31043D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: Subject: RE: newby isp questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:57:49 -0000 Hello Juan, and welcome. >From your questions, it sounds like you don't want to be an ISP, but a hosting company (HSP).=20 I doubt you can run an effective hosting business on an ADSL line, for = two reasons: 1. you will limited by the UPLOAD speed of your line. ADSL is generally fast in one direction only. The fastest anyone will be able to download = is the upload speed of your line. Is 512kbps enough? Not usually these = days. (Then again, I started in 1995 with a 128k fractional T1, and it lasted = me about a year - times have changed!) 2. Around here at least, ADSL connections use PPPoE protocol, which = limits the MTU to 1492 or lower. This can *sometimes* cause problems when = running a server. You can probably run a test server from your home this way. If you need = more bandwidth, it's often best to lease a server or collocate it in a high bandwidth secure environment. You will be able to run all of the required services on FreeBSD - all = but one box in our network is FreeBSD (routers and switches excluded). = However for hosting more than a few sites, we found it easier to stop = configuring sites manually, and bought a hosting control panel. Ensim doesn't run on FreeBSD, and doesn't work with private IP addresses. It does however = support domain aliases - I like that feature a lot. We use it on a Fedora box. = I use Plesk for my own websites, on a FreeBSD (5.3-SECURITY) box, in = private IP space. It is also very nice. It comes down to what you want to do - have a box to play on and learn, = or have a viable business. Rarely do the two objectives collide. Regarding your questions, 1. no, they don't have to be separate. Personally, I believe in = hardware firewalls.=20 2. see my warning on adsl. But if you can get FreeBSD to see the usb = network device, have fun. 3. no, every domain doesn't need its own jail. 3a. unless you are using ssl (https), each domain doesn't need its own = IP address. Where to start learning? www.webhostingtalk.com http://www.oreilly.com/ http://www.devshed.com/c/b/Apache/ http://www.isc.org/ Depending on what mail server you use, www.sendmail.org www.postfix.org - personal favourite www.qmail.org Good luck! Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of DSA - JCR Sent: January 3, 2006 9:39 AM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: newby isp questions Hi all in this list and Happy New Year !!! I am New to FreeBSD but not to OSes and UNIX and would like to became in an ISP, in a very first moment only with my own domain, and after we = will see ... ;D I would like to know if the configuration in which i am thinking is = right or not. I have and ADSL modem (1Mb by now) connecting to an ISP. This is what I am thinking to do: - I must have a fix IP from my ISP. - The ADSL modem will connect to a Firewall box (FreeBSD or m0n0Wall?). = I am thinking in an old PC I have. Can this be made without Hard disk, = only with CD?. - This Firewall connect to a PC with FreeBSD 6.0 and web capabilities (Apache, mail...). - In order to protect my network, I would use NAT, in the Firewall, and connect my PC to it as a gateway. Questions: - Must I separate the Firewall/Nat from the Webserver box or can be the same? - My ADSL modem uses USB to conect to PC, can I use it or is better a = hub adsl type? - In the Webserver box, if I want to have diferent web domains,must I = put each one in a jail? and what about the IP of each domain, only one NIC?. Where can I learn about this? books?... Sincerely and thanks in advance Juan Coru=F1a Desarrollo de Software Atlantico _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"