From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 08:50:40 2005 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8815716A41F for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 08:50:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@spadger.best.vwh.net) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2266043D45 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 08:50:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@spadger.best.vwh.net) Received: from spadger.best.vwh.net (c-24-16-37-100.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[24.16.37.100]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005080108503801300hn6g6e>; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 08:50:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spadger.best.vwh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE2189E; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 01:50:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: Message from "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> of "Mon, 01 Aug 2005 17:08:15 +0930." <200508011708.34414.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1122886236_18849P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 01:50:36 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow <andy@spadger.best.vwh.net> Message-Id: <20050801085037.0DE2189E@spadger.best.vwh.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Eriq <admin@tigergroup.org> Subject: Re: x for users slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 08:50:40 -0000 --==_Exmh_1122886236_18849P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Monday 01 August 2005 17:34, Eriq wrote: > > after all of this, I notice that it takes a user about a minute after > > 'startx' to get into X. Yes I know, but I still like the colors :) > > anyway this doesn't happen when I logon as root and start X. Blackbox is > > the WM hope this helps. > > At a wild guess I would say your DNS is broken. Umm, yup, maybe. There might be another phenomena, however. I resisted moving my laptop from XFree86 to XOrg until it became too much of a pain staying back. I only switched when VMware broke for me and I needed to try OpenOffice. When I finally moved to Xorg (and rebuilt all my ports with portupgrade for good measure), the first thing I noticed was that it took almost a couple of minutes[0] on my laptop (1GHz PIII) for 'wdm' to display the login window and overlay the background over the grey weave. The hdd LED was lit solidly the entire time. IIRC, the same machine (actually, it had a slower CPU then) with XFree86 took maybe 10-15 seconds when I typed 'wdm&&exit' at a root prompt. This is with 4.1[01]-STABLE, the built-in graphics are ATI Rage Mobility (Mach64), not exactly bleeding edge (and fairly well supported). Other than that idiosyncracy, (and some infrequent odd effects with either xine or mplayer that can be cleared by re-starting the X server, at least some of which also happened with XFree68 and are probably due to the player apps), the Xorg server seems to work just fine. It does seem to behave somewhat differently to XFree86 on startup, however. If all he's noticing is a slow X startup with the Xorg server, thats an <AOL> from me. I can't comment if starting it as a user is even slower, because I almost never use 'startx', I always run a display manager and log into that. Cheers, AS [0] OK, I haven't actually timed it, but it's at least a minute, probably longer and it's 100% consistant. --==_Exmh_1122886236_18849P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 iD8DBQFC7eJcPHh895bDXeQRAm4DAKCpEK19FQgsli4j8UY1xWx5QzoqwgCgpdhi 9QPeTnSRIjGbSI6eS2xqTDU= =iuv0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1122886236_18849P--