From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 20 20:00:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07608 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:00:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07600 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:00:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from Celeris (56k-port4045.ime.net [209.90.195.55]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA08753 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:59:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Message-Id: <199809210259.WAA08753@Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us> X-Server-Comment: Sent via OCSNet/Orland, Admin is: Droobie@Onenetwork.orland.me.us X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.52 (Beta) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:53:15 -0400 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: More on the Intel-UNIX standard In-Reply-To: <199809210201.TAA02154@word.smith.net.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It'd be cool to humor us with some background info URL's on UDI.. As far as FreeBSD implementation and Yahoo and all that stuff. The main problem I see with FreeBSD is the lack of support behind it for commercial applications.. I'm stuck using a totally other WinNT P200 to run Netscapes Enterprise Server, Directory Server, and Messaging Server.. Something has to be said for that. Problem is, even LINUX doesn't get that, seems that only Solaris and the occasional DEC Unix. There's gotta be some sort of a way to emulate those binaries... At 07:01 PM 9/20/98 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >> > UDI is a reasonably nice framework. Someone with some time on their >> > hands might want to try implementing it for FreeBSD. Last time I read >> > the drafts, there were still significant omissions, particularly >> > addressing the way that a UDI driver might integrate with the system >> >> All the more reason for someone with some time to get involved now rather >> than later and finding out that there are significant architecture drawbacks >> which could possibily make UDI unfeasible for FreeBSD. >> >> Someone could probably make a case for FreeBSD given that Yahoo , Oracle, >> and a few other large companies are using FreeBSD and making money where >> as in the Linux camp thats probably a rarity . > >I've applied the pressure I've been able to, given the time. It may be >too late, but if you want to campaign on the issue, the person at Intel >to talk to is "Saxena, Sunil" . You might want >to include Mark Bradley and Kurt Gollhart > in your discussions. Note that these last two are "big >cheese" technical people (Kurt is SCO Core OS Architect), so you want to >be concise and avoid bullshitting them. > >Note that most of the guts of a UDI interface to an operating system is >system specific; you're providing the mapping between the UDI API and >the host API. In some cases, the mapping will be complex (eg. the UDI >SCSI driver backend to CAM), in others it will be trivial. >-- >\\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith >\\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au >\\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org >\\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message