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Date:      Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:54:45 -0800
From:      Chris <bsd-lists@BSDforge.com>
To:        <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Running FreeBSD on M.2 SSD
Message-ID:  <10e3153ee81dcd7919079cd0bfc16656@udns.ultimatedns.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAP4Gn9CPtsrSTia%2BsSyT7yRiSHGfO0qJGPGrqR7sOSth7dsiwg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:44:45 -0300 Mario Olofo mario=2Eolofo@gmail=2Ecom said

> Hello guys, a little update that let me more confused
>=20
> I reinstalled the FreeBSD with 4k pages using the sysctl
> vfs=2Ezfs=2Emin_auto_ashift =3D 12 and no errors after a lot of stress I put =
on
> it=2E
> One thing that I noticed is that with the pool as 4k, the disk fill up ve=
ry
> fast, recompiling the kernel used my 8GB space and didn't even completed=2E
> But now I don't know if the 4k is the correct answer or if this just dela=
ys
> the problem as the pages are bigger=2E
The TLDR of 4k vs 512 largely has to do with the size of the files going
onto your medium=2E Many files of a smaller size fit better on a 512 boundary=
=2E
Whereas larger mp3s or archives fair better on a 4k boundary=2E BTW these are
called SECTOR sizes=2E Not pages=2E :) 4k blocks typically read faster, than th=
e
512 blocks (sectors)=2E Because more data can be consumed in one read/write=2E
So really, your going to have to decide how best to "tune" your disk to bes=
t
suite it's intended use=2E Many small files=2E Or big files, and storage=2E

HTH

--Chris
FreeBSD 14=2E0-FUTURE #0=2E000 cray256
>=20
> Mario
>=20
> Em sex=2E, 28 de fev=2E de 2020 =C3=A0s 13:18, Mario Olofo <mario=2Eolofo@gmail=
=2Ecom>
> escreveu:
>=20
> > Yes, tried 4k quirk but not on install because don't know how to, I did=
 a
> > clean install then patch and rebuild the kernel, but
> > the volume was already configured for 512bytes, I think I would need to
> > create manually the volume, but don't remember how to anymore xD
> > But I'll search some tutorials and try=2E From what I saw, the patch
> > suggested on bugzilla got merged into the stable branch, so the quirk w=
ill
> > be
> > detected to use 4k in the installer in a near future=2E
> >
> > Mario
> >
> > Em sex=2E, 28 de fev=2E de 2020 =C3=A0s 12:52, Theron <theron=2Etarigo@gmail=2E=
com>
> > escreveu:
> >
> >> On 2020-02-28 09:14, Mario Olofo wrote:
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > The only thing that I didn't checked was the questions of Theron, ab=
out
> >> > misaligned data=2E
> >> > The layout of the disk is as follows:
> >> >
> >> > Disco /dev/sdb: 447,1 GiB, 480113590272 bytes, 937721856 setores
> >> > Unidades: setor de 1 * 512 =3D 512 bytes
> >> > Tamanho de setor (l=C3=B3gico/f=C3=ADsico): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> >> > Tamanho E/S (m=C3=ADnimo/=C3=B3timo): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> >> > Tipo de r=C3=B3tulo do disco: gpt
> >> > Identificador do disco: D1725E60-D734-4461-90F8-E9EB2376A65A
> >> >
> >> > Dispositivo    In=C3=ADcio       Fim   Setores Tamanho Tipo
> >> > /dev/sdb1        2048   1023999   1021952    499M Windows ambiente d=
e
> >> > recupera=C3=A7=C3=A3o
> >> > /dev/sdb2     1024000   1228799    204800    100M Sistema EFI
> >> > /dev/sdb3     1228800   1261567     32768     16M Microsoft reservad=
o
> >> > /dev/sdb4     1261568 532482047 531220480  253,3G Microsoft dados b=
=C3=A1sico
> >> > /dev/sdb5   532482048 549257215  16775168      8G FreeBSD ZFS
> >> > /dev/sdb6   549257216 937719807 388462592  185,2G Linux sistema de
> >> arquivos
> >> >
> >> > The zfsroot was configured automatically by the installer, so I thin=
k
> >> that
> >> > it align the volume automaticaly right?
> >> >
> >> > Mario
> >>
> >> Yes, I don't see any potential alignment issue here=2E  I would wonder i=
f
> >> this drive is misrepresenting its physical sector size, deceiving ZFS
> >> and the SATA driver into making small writes that the drive does not
> >> actually support, but it looks like you may have already tried the
> >> relevant workaround:
> >>
> >> On 2020-02-27 23:44, Mario Olofo wrote:
> >> > Maybe the problem really is a combination of factors, for the person
> >> that
> >> > filed a bug on bugzilla the fix was setting the quirks 4k and
> >> broken_trim,
> >> > but for me the real block size is 512bytes and only setting the flag
> >> > broken_trim didn't help=2E=2E=2E
> >> >
> >> > Mario
> >> Did you try 4k quirk ?
> >>
> >> Theron
> >>
> >
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