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Date:      Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:03:23 -0600
From:      "Mike Meyer" <mwm-dated-1016143406.b4e49c@mired.org>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1016137017.93980d@mired.org>, Paul Robinson <paul@iconoplex.co.uk>, "Nickolay A.Kritsky" <nkritsky@internethelp.ru>, Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>, Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.homeip.net>, Cliff Sarginson <csfbsd@raggedclown.net>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/
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Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> types:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
> > In that case, you've got to purchase proprietary hardware to do it,
> > and it's liable to be expensive. But wanting to satisfy your
> > curiousity doesn't justify your stealing from other people.
> He's right.  Computers that are running software take more
> electricity than those running the idle loop.  This works
> because idle loops aren't software, and because CPU cycles
> cost money when you use them to do work, but cost nothing
> when there is no work to do.
> 8-).

Assuming, of course, that they were running an idle loop, and not
doing real work. People don't normally spend 8 figures on computers
that they then let sit idle a lot.

One other comment - how many of you who felt like you had to break
into computers to gain access to them thought about simply asking for
access? I tended to give it away whenever I could, and I know other
places that had similar policies. For that matter, the university I
attended seriously undercharged for CPU time, so you could buy lots of
CPU time for not a lot of cash.

	<mike
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