From owner-freebsd-current Tue Aug 28 7:56:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA2037B403 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@rac4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.144]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24511; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA20474; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20470; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:55:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac4.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:55:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Darryl Okahata , current@FreeBSD.ORG, Julian Elischer Subject: Re: Headsup! KSE believers should show up! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I for one can test it on an alpha (I'm borrowing from chuckr@freebsd.org) as soon as my DSL gets installed ;-) Ken On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 5:09 PM -0700 8/27/01, Darryl Okahata wrote: > > Is there some reason why KSE couldn't be integrated > >ASAP *AFTER* 5.0 is released? > > > >[ Personally, I'd like to see it in 5.0, but, with all the qualms that > > people seem to have, I'm curious as to why it can't be integrated > > immediately after 5.0 is cut? This way, Julian's MFCs are reduced, > > and it gives people more time to pound on KSE. ] > > In the interests of progress, let us assume for the moment that most > of the qualms about KSE could be addressed by more testing of it, > and a little more work for non-Intel platforms. > > Based on that assumption, anyone who is eager for KSE should realize > that NOW is the time to step forward and help out with it. If we > can get a reasonable amount of testing done in the next two or three > weeks, then maybe we could get KSE committed for "5.0", and also > get "5.0" released when we expected to release it. > > I think this would be the ideal outcome. If you have any energy to > spare right now, let's put that energy towards the ideal outcome. > But NOW is the time to help out, not in late October or November. > > I have changed the subject for this message, because I am hoping > that a more positive subject might get a more positive result. > Anyone who does think KSE is worth having for 5.0, should step up > and provide Julian with the help needed to address the legitimate > concerns which have been mentioned. Julian does not need people > descending into a flame-war, he needs people to show up and help out. > > -- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu > Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message