Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:03:16 +0100 From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.tfs.com> To: Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Cc: grog@lemis.de, cosmos@misery.bssc.org, hackers@freebsd.org, jack@cdrom.com Subject: Re: HELP!!! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY (fwd) Message-ID: <17320.820224196@critter.tfs.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:02:41 %2B1030." <199512290232.NAA04925@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
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> Poul-Henning Kamp stands accused of saying: > > > >> The "best" solution to the basic problem (no Jordan, no wolves this time 8 ) > >> would be better detection/interoperation with BIOS extenders. This is > >> kinda problematic though, as none of the deep-down disk hackers consider I DE > >> worthy of their spit, and the technical aspects of the problem are > >> pretty hairy. > > > > As the one who spent a lot more than I liked, of time I didn't have, on > > getting this particular area of sysinstall working, I kind of resent that > > remark, quite a lot in fact :-( > > Sorry; I'd still hold to the assertion that you don't consider IDE worth > your spit, but that you spent the time because you consider FreeBSD is. Well, only one of my FreeBSD machines are SCSI, so I think you need to reconsider... > > I am also on the ata/atapi mailing-list and I can comfortably say that > > this entire area is so impossible to handle intelligently and correctly > > in all cases, that I'm seriously tempted to not even touch it again, ever. > > Hmm. Somehow I don't think we could get away with making FreeBSD an > IDE-free zone, but it would be nice. I'm not talking about an IDE free zone, but about a "We support the following vanilla config, anything else is on your own risk". > > I) a copy of Ontrack Diskmanager version 6.X > > * J) a copy of Ontrack Diskmanager version 7.X > > * .... You get the idea... > > This in particular is the "idea" that's most important in this context; > it would be nice even just to have an enumerated list of the other > products of this type that in use. Well, do you have any idea how much >I< would like that list ??? > > I personally have 12+ years of OS installation, and have learned that > > if I have anything on the disks I care about, I will back it up first, > > and I will read any information from the install program very very > > carefully, with a very paranoid attitude. > > But instilling this into the mind of a WareZ-crazed ftp-head is _very_hard_. > 8( true. Not that I care too much about that category of user anyway :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so.
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