From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 6 18:35:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04665 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:35:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (PacHell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04660 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:35:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA01844; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:35:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf) Message-ID: <19981206183522.I27271@TelcoSucks.org> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:35:22 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Mike Smith , obrien@NUXI.com Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New drivers and install floppy space Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <19981205021914.C12672@nuxi.com> <199812060720.XAA02870@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199812060720.XAA02870@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 11:20:17PM -0800 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-19980930-BETA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 11:20:17PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > When a majority can no longer be thusly accommodated, we'll just shrug > > > and ditch it completely in favor of the 2(*)-floppy solution. > > > > It is not that bad. I'm doing more and more boot off the CDROM installs. > > I assume sysinstall + boot kernel can be quite large there. > > Is the boot kernel there a full GENERIC kernel? > > No. The way that bootable CDROMs work is that the BIOS pretends that a > 1.44MB region at the beginning of the CDROM is actually a 1.44MB floppy > disk. There is also support for harddisk. I have a URL with the exact description. Building an image right now for another project. > > I wouldn't mind finding the asshole responsible for this fiasco and > doing something traumatic to their lower digestive tract with a > petrol-powered Weed Eater. > > The only ways out of this are: > > - mandate a floppy in addition to the CDROM (sucks) > - add CDROM drivers to the bootloader (ATAPI, SCSI for Adaptec and NCR > at least) > > Both of these are painful. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message