From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 16 09:48:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A831065673 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F2C8FC0A for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws20 with SMTP id 20so8265156vws.13 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 02:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.47.74 with SMTP id m10mr4739838vcf.229.1276681733053; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 02:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n1sm7209749vcf.16.2010.06.16.02.48.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 16 Jun 2010 02:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 82C1EE54824 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:48:34 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100616054834.5daa7e87@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20100615211740.GA50967@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100615154956.cfz6ip454w8gcco4@mail.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <07A440BE-D29A-44CA-9F2D-16D1314A8B24@mac.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/89c.IeCt/xg+_KMtNEB65yX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: concerning flash under freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:48:54 -0000 --Sig_/89c.IeCt/xg+_KMtNEB65yX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:32:21 +0200 Samuel Mart=C3=ADn Moro articulated: > Their last Linux release only exists for x86. > Two ArchLinux mailinglists are advising users about uninstalling > Flash from our systems. >=20 > Flash is hardly working on BSD. And often bug on Linux. >=20 > I spent one month, for my work, trying to correct a few of those > crashes (we provide FreeBSD servers, our administrative intranet uses > Flash sockets). Well, nspluginwrapper source is a complete mindfuck. > Just wait for newer releases, and check if what you need works. >=20 > For now, HTML5 is about to replace it, spreading on Youtube&Co., and > we still did not knew a working version of Flash under Linux. > The day Adobe would provide compatible softwares, they may speak about > supporting Linux/Solaris... > Until that, the cleanest way to proceed, is to setup a Windows VM... FreeBSD in general suffers from a multiple of problems when it comes to Internet usage. Flash support, as noted, sucks. JAVA doesn't even exist for the latest versions of Firefox. Getting sound to work properly and consistently with web browsers can be a nightmare in itself. PDF is not consistent between browsers and usually requires way to much effort to get installed. If the past is any indication, when HTML5 becomes a reality, something that some experts claim may not be for another 10 years, FreeBSD may not even support it for some archaic reason. Until FreeBSD can overcome these obstacles, anyone who requires access to all the available features found on web sites really needs to keep another PC handy running, in most cases anyway, Microsoft. Like it or not, their web browser, and some other browsers ported to their architecture, outperform web browsers on other OSs in total functionality. Undoubtedly, posters will be blaming everyone else for these misgivings; when in reality, to find the source of a problem one needs usually only look in a mirror. --=20 Jerry =E2=9C=8C FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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