From nobody Sun Apr 16 08:14:36 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PzjfC3Q55z44sZH for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 08:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PzjfB1HBmz3sDD for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 08:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=grGBIUsG; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net Received: from fews01-sea.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.109]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Pzjf82pHlzDr97 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 08:14:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1681632896; bh=dc8EFOohMy1LwL0Pq8QHBYC+MOba1QHLSci2g3aooK0=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=grGBIUsG0YvX9h2MaI4nHdkB+C5sFsArfFj1NQJ0L+7DcuDJZNdqjicpkJwDDlfIH lndoxRrt7TR0Tb+0wnGnFJBLV440Aje6hp0d/ZfWi4f+mVblqHAIMoq5TDLuNInyGg xOVvdOCnxajrxpgXhGk8K4P+koAw6qN8csqLuJSs= X-Riseup-User-ID: B0992C2D42967DFFA63C63FBC5D932FD8B699162FF11E066805CAA2C3BD91A55 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews01-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Pzjdw5Pr3zJqZq for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 08:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9efb1204ede36008eb1bc83b6048d9c41ea2ab86.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: Docker From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 10:14:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <8E16D624-2655-4A10-844A-93E4F63E9859@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <078a1cf8-7ae2-c593-615b-f5f37fa2b3eb@timpreston.net> <06be3a1e-9319-1a21-88b9-4f87328ee127@timpreston.net> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.19 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.985]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PzjfB1HBmz3sDD X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sat, 2023-04-15 at 22:00 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Docker is many things.=C2=A0 It is a virtually private filespace running = over > a common Linux kernel.=C2=A0 In this regard, it's basically a high- > class version of chroot. Used with=C2=A0intellect and application-related I like Linux, chroot, systemd-nspawn and hypervisors a lot. However, the countless container approaches flooding linux are just odd workarounds in order not to have to deal with fundamental things that would have to be changed. At some point adding a layer above a layer above a layer above layer becomes pure madness.