From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 30 3:27:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4358E37B416 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 03:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAUBRcR23553 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:27:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18800 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:27:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 24926 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Nov 2001 11:27:36 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:27:35 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: "Philip J. Koenig" Cc: igorr@speechpro.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Am I forced to install Xfree86? Message-ID: <20011130112735.GA24903@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: "Philip J. Koenig" , igorr@speechpro.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3C05DAEE.4140.1F43C46@localhost> <3C06C83C.24008.1EC0AD1@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C06C83C.24008.1EC0AD1@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 11:43:56PM -0800, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > On 30 Nov 2001, at 9:50, Igor Roboul boldly uttered: > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 06:51:26AM -0800, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > > > requires retrieving 30MB of Xfree86 files, compiling and installing, > > > on a machine that doesn't run X? It seems to have something to do > > Check /usr/ports/net/mtr/Makefile and you'll see > > WANT_GTK= yes > > > OK, so what if: > > A) I don't know what GTK is > B) I don't know what changing that to "no" will do to the > functionality of the port I'm trying to install Then don't bother about it. Ports using WANT_xxx mean: " If xxx is installed it will be used, otherwise we will get by witout it." > > > Not to be annoying, but the ports are promoted as a simple > way of installing preconfigured programs. I don't think that > positioning is consistent with the implication that everyone is > an expert about various options that appear in makefiles, because if > so, why not just compile the thing from scratch and forget the port? > > How difficult would it be in the case of a program like mtr which can > run perfectly fine without X, to place a question in the script where > it stops and asks "would you like to include X-Windows support?"? For mtr, if you do not have X or GTK installed it is not supposed to fetch and build it. As far as I can determine from looking at the port it doesn't do that either unless you have changed something. > This particular case is certainly not an isolated one in this regard. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message