Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:53:03 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> To: davidg@Root.COM Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>, Stephen Hocking <sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au>, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Quake's out, where's that Linux ELF emulation? Message-ID: <199602280853.AAA01198@rah.star-gate.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:03:35 PST." <199602280803.AAA05147@Root.COM>
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Yeap, I realize that there is a core group of individuals that would follow your thinking which happens to both maintain the level of technology that we have today (which I think is good ) then on the other hand in terms of well the whole group making its presence known in the internet has not been as big as the Linux crowd. I still like the idea of the black background with the red ribbon at least for a week. As for ftp.cdrom.com is kind of hard via netscape to tell that is a FreeBSD system and I am not too sure that it registers that well on people's mind. One small data point on the net, a linux user said "I got to admit that ftp.cdrom.com is interesting technology however it needs more exposure" Okay, the linux fanatic is wrong . For whatever is worth, I know that I fighting a losing battle with David Taylor and even trying to convince this group to mail bomb ID (ruffle, sift, I thought I had an H e-mail bomb around here somewhere) In fact, I am not even sure if this group can organize itself to present a common cause such as the current scenario. Well okay, I am getting old , so perhaps someone can present evidence of at least once when this group agreed to act as whole for the purpose of acquiring something. For instance, I remember the XFree86 team collecting a tally count of many netters and presenting a grand total to Diamond. Granted it did not work initially but somehow XFree86 how to notes found there way into Diamond's Web Server. Subliminal message: I still like the idea of the black background with the red ribbon at least for a week. Amancio >>> David Greenman said: > >>>> "Jordan K. Hubbard" said: > > > > Gosh, > > > > > > > > Can we send out 2000 mail messages to iD?? > > > > > > Ack, no, please don't! Look, seriously, I've talked to the > > > _developers_ of this friggin' software and they've made it more than > > > abundantly plain to me, on multiple occasions, that they are NEVER, > > > EVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES going to do a port to FreeBSD and the > > > matter is not even open to discussion. The only reason we see a "free > > > UNIX" port of IDs stuff at all is because they happen to be unabashed > > > Linux fanatics there, and they have zero, zip nada interest in a > > > FreeBSD port. > > > > > > If you want Dave Taylor to publically state same in this mailing list > > > >Fine , arrange it . I like to go "down" fighting not standing down. > >If they don't make port for FreeBSD can you remove the stuff from > >the ftp.cdrom.com site. This is my thinking they are so in love with > >linux yet they have not been able to provide an adequate linux ftp > >site. It seems to me that they have dollars and can buy the expertise > >to provide adequate ftp services be that linux or some other platform. > > No, that would be *extremely* childish and bad business to boot. Besides, It is *not* childish it depends on how is executed if you state the reason in a persuasive manner it can be construed as a protest. I hope that you parse this clearly. > we gain a tremendous amount by dishing out our FreeBSD propaganda when they To be honest with you I don't think so specially if the access the system via netscape. Most of the times I tend to ignore the initial sign on banner and just go right in to fetch what I want. Now if you tell me that Walnut Creek has a big ad on something like the Wall Street Journal then thats different I bet people will pay attention. Okay, Wall Street Journal is big how about a bigger ad on Computer Currents or Microtimes 8) > (the dos/linux people) access the archive. wcarchive didn't grow to be > the biggest and busiest FTP archive in the world by strong-arming people > into a One True Way of thinking. > You can put me on record as saying that I think it's very bad policy to > sink to the levels of the Linux fanatics. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project
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