From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 11:16:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CA916A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:16:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A98F43D5D for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:16:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])iAEBFxPQ000830 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:15:59 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)iAEBFw72000829; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:15:58 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:15:58 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Michael Nottebrock Message-ID: <20041114111558.GA672@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20041113101925.GB70256@voodoo.oberon.net> <20041113174948.GD76034@nevermind.kiev.ua> <419655EB.8070506@gmx.net> <4196BE10.6060306@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4196BE10.6060306@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:15:59 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/587/Sun Nov 14 01:57:41 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,RAZOR2_CHECK autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: ports@freebsd.org cc: Matthias Andree cc: Kirill Ponomarew Subject: Re: HEADSUP: INDEX[-5] files were removed from CVS. X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:16:16 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 03:08:16AM +0100, Michael Nottebrock wrote: =20 > >"make fetchindex" runs on the order of a minute for my machine (1 Mbit/s > >link), but I'm definitely not using "make index" on my K6-2/300. > > > >It's about time for a _fast_ index generator, or a cache so that only > >changed records are replaced. >=20 > I think one has been mentioned in this thread, but since it's written in= =20 > perl, it's not a candidate for base-system inclusion... Ummm... did you ever take a close look at how 'make index' works? Substantial parts of that are written in perl. =20 > >INDEX has been an annoyance ever since but > >no-one has a decent solution how ports can do without. >=20 > Perhaps the recent events will contribute to depart from the stalemate=20 > ports have been in, with no real development going on and portupgrade bei= ng=20 > 'good enough' for everybody. Perhaps it will just result in portupgrade= =20 > stopping depending on INDEX to the extent as it does now, which will be= =20 > 'good enough' again for most people. How can something like portupgrade(1) work without the dependency ordering information? At the moment, that comes from the INDEX file -- although thinking about it, it would be a lot more efficient over all for portupgrade(1) to just work out the dependencies of any installed ports as it goes along. Now, that is an interesting idea. I may have to go on a crash course of learning Ruby so I can fully investigate that. (Although don't hold your breath, as I've just started a new job and ENOTIME) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBlz5tiD657aJF7eIRAjTrAKChPnpAKoLwaqbYmL8P7sONB6UnBACdG13G 9pbw6pyxEDV/D3bDeGTUZSo= =Z7z4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp--