From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 08:54:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DE11065675 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C332F8FC1D for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl76-178.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.123.178]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id m7Q8rsuD017822 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:54:02 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7Q8rjsM002323; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:53:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m7N8EuJn002124; Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:14:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Redd Vinylene" References: Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:14:55 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Redd Vinylene's message of "Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:31:22 +0200") Message-ID: <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m7Q8rsuD017822 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.834, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.56, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: bugs@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I can't make world without the "games" group? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:54:24 -0000 On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:31:22 +0200, "Redd Vinylene" wrote: > Why can't I make world without the "games" group? I run a serious > server, not a kindergarten ;) > > I don't want the games group there, I just don't need it! Have you tried building with an src.conf file that includes: WITHOUT_GAMES='yes' It' not a matter of `kindergarten or not', but a matter of providing a predictable `base system' by default and all the knob and documentation to customize it at will. That's why you can find a lot of customization options in the manpage of src.conf(5). For example, on a `production server' that is a bit limited in space, and doesn't really need compilers, debuggers, profiling tools, or three different firewalls, I would probably build with: WITHOUT_CVS=yes WITHOUT_GAMES='yes' WITHOUT_GCOV=yes WITHOUT_GDB=yes WITHOUT_IPFILTER=yes WITHOUT_IPX=yes WITHOUT_OBJC=yes WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes WITHOUT_SHAREDOCS=yes I would also use WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN=yes during `make installworld' runs, to skip installing all the gcc, g++ and debugger tools. The default `base system' still installs all these parts, but you are definitely *not* obliged to always install all of them. - Giorgos