Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:37:16 +0000 From: Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Cc: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Message-ID: <20181023233716.GA15106@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <201810232326.w9NNQjtK024759@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <CANCZdfo1RSUfLCzWZuQB83z1aU%2Bt=6oh7u2ZgDQTXjqVXNEhTg@mail.gmail.com> <201810232326.w9NNQjtK024759@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
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--VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 04:26:45PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:07 PM Rodney W. Grimes < > > freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > >=20 > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:33:35PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > > > I'd also suggest that rl stands in stark contrast to the cs, wb= , sn, > > > smc, > > > > > > sf, tl, tx and vr drivers, which nobody has mentioned in this > > > thread, and > > > > > > which I doubt are in use in any FreeBSD system of any age today. > > > > > > > > > > vr is used by my TV driver laptop: > > > > > http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/novatech-8355/ > > > > > vr0: flags=3D8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric = 0 mtu > > > 1500 > > > > > options=3D82808<VLAN_MTU,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MAGIC,LINKSTATE> > > > > > ether 00:40:d0:5e:26:38 > > > > > inet 192.168.91.65 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.9= 1.255 > > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX > > > <full-duplex,flowcontrol,rxpause,txpause>) > > > > > status: active > > > > > > > > > > Which currently runs 8.4-RELEASE & eg xrandr, but I'll upgrade so= on > > > > > when I also configure it to receive from a raspberry-pi TV VPN se= rver. > > > > > > > > The above was a typo. vr is on the the STAY list. > > > > > > > > -- Brooks > > > Brooks, > > > Is there a public revised version of FCP-0101 that reflects t= he > > > feedback which is what core is voting on? > > > > >=20 > > Its on github, just like it's been the whole time for anybody to see, > > submit pull requests against and track: >=20 > I have no gh account, desires no gh account, so have no way to > submit a change request other than through direct email to > brooks or another gh user. This is fundementally flawed. >=20 > > https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/blob/master/fcp-0101.md >=20 > Thank you for the link, I had looked at it before MeetBSD, > which did not have most of the recent changes done "a day ago". >=20 > Isnt this document now in a frozen state while core reviews/votes? I sent it to a vote at c224c67557297d7cba909ad008542cb60980cc6b only to notice a bug in table rendering. I submitted a pull request fix that and a missing word which was merged since neither was material. I suppose they could have waited or been skipped, but there's no value in the FCP process being bound by the sort of pointless rigidity that led to -DPOSIX_MISTAKE in every libc compile line. -- Brooks --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbz7CqAAoJEKzQXbSebgfAwOAH/0CWmIrkKsSqGjFGNeSFO7re C8i1rzIuZ4p589nhKWRfaIRC6h5FaAlBD6+/1PR3gsMwFebHVT8CcH34khy2voiJ 1TYDn6atuTqbJapp8pPH0xV56ZNr2iTMVwRU52jzGY9+gJU7uDqAcisI66U8Suqx S0tHsVZab+j4sNgCPTU5LnQ/+AYPUp5v5Gmgd4rlgYjZEA8F9YnMgtCv5c07tfdm ynN3l0DnTg3u2IQnExRh6OU9WTy/ggjBfQmcg7fCL9JAwrrkCukkyvXILmFmBuhn eShpFUzFR9rKAzYsJ92WSUviJLzB5DKDCYAUeXz0qozK9mAt75J5FYKUS/0hDBk= =dMkV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J--
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