From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Sun Dec 31 02:08:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0925EE80D3D for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 02:08:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x235.google.com (mail-io0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD1857AAF6 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 02:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x235.google.com with SMTP id e20so1716055iof.12 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 18:08:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=0sX5xHjpvPKHOcY024tDfyTQtldfL9by52Weto4NXNk=; b=eWeVUQmG8H6hqBveZHAzMTsT+R6KVpsXvNEPs4otmGXqhjM5VCQom3I35T/iKPK04q UdeJqVSjs3axjNrnBMzLaMbI9nmHrtVz/lbJwehrnLc5gfWjErECcxNmu4dhPa6KuP4R jccblX+fDQPrrO91P56ACeCk9K1cFMjA+ZTdOYH1Aa09psK7Nf84UGlgW7SBiAAqjcTa Vy2cLOTzjSHdwdH/VhasD7O3gTLgQJpDfKhUjHW4gX/xg8BZvdlxHOJJilxAVmhqKqXx j5PYj/95YkBrh2N8g7xXKYKv+OevzqU8IlcmahH7+0OwLj1vS8fAME/TjXTVm//x66XD FBmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0sX5xHjpvPKHOcY024tDfyTQtldfL9by52Weto4NXNk=; b=AAxXXP8UG9lYBvC3nTEuI4yDYDdOz69uRNLPy2MTGgcgcyEb0X75Kl78PV6dV3XxC4 3hvD4PII5Wq+LoTt/cbOHWU0O6DNJJ16r0frHfZL5u2YQLhpiqED5yfZLNYwHH30+uHb yuM2YAYPYF81TS7xRTHy96a6QJ97AoISvS69zOSKr0F+FKaTZvqeGk/T2hX+GO9V8o0o e79+0z1V6Fuh6e3Gt+X2YJL5nOUWZ+SApyGAULKQmcDd5uQ/addzjikfH9mkQ/ax5tge h/GMTOoAaonQdIXwSXwCqLTyjGucPyEYa2YDlryjLkG9E7y805lpm+gQtXcTfQW2GoNO uVhg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJ96bE30NfFYsn0XV+v8W+MeK5RGdZUZf0vnx5gldZ0MV/I0joY 2Kan//f9nNuu1r64SAKTqIrEY5pq7r57+BW75pv9uQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBote8FQ1jCRNpUAdRkTeV8Ibdkzgg1q/DNbB5u3UJK0xQ3UtkK+3PoakkKCqjaKgKsI4Yzp5LbqzzRYJeiROcz4= X-Received: by 10.107.149.5 with SMTP id x5mr45576278iod.136.1514686119938; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 18:08:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.108.204 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 18:08:39 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <201712310122.vBV1Mjds078793@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <12b36190fcd6918a01d88fd4dbf1a220@megadrive.org> <201712310122.vBV1Mjds078793@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 19:08:39 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JRajeXuu_JvfJUkxvWnYH4y88FY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Emmanuel Vadot , Robert Watson , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 02:08:41 -0000 On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > On 2017-12-31 01:46, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < > > >> freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT? > When last I > > >> > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and > generally > > >> > came > > >> > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory. > > >> > > > > >> > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be > deleted w/o > > >> > loss > > >> > > of functionality. > > >> > > > >> > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about > > >> > this. It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has > > >> > NOT been done yet. At least that is how I read the persons > > >> > comments. > > >> > > >> > > >> That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and > > >> we've > > >> arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email > > >> asking > > >> for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my > > >> interpretation > > >> is correct. > > > > > > Thanks. Also you might want to ping the router projects folks, > > > as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and > > > they may have info on which of the implementations work better, > > > and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x > > > can just be axed. I know this project is out there someplace, > > > but can not find a link for it right now. And I have seen > > > some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months. > > > > "router project folks" ? > > > > Who are you talking about exactly ? > > And now I found the other person that just posted updates on the > zrouter code, it is now a git project, and just updated stuff > relative to the RT305x stuff one month ago: > https://github.com/ZRouter/ZRouter/tree/master/socs/Ralink > > Project top is at https://github.com/ZRouter Looks like they'll have to update. Should be pretty easy. I'll ping. Warner > > >> Warner > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems > to > > >> > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a > bunch of > > >> > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips. > What am > > >> > I > > >> > > missing? > > >> > > > > >> > > Warner > > >> > > > > >> > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hi Warner, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are > to be > > >> > kept > > >> > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, > Mikrotik from > > >> > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), > sibyte is > > >> > to be > > >> > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while. > > >> > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g > router" with > > >> > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested). > > >> > > > > > >> > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thank you! > > >> > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your > > >> > family. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following > > >> > before the > > >> > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) > > >> > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and > boards lack > > >> > > >> memory, very old) > > >> > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) > > >> > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) > > >> > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list > to > > >> > arch@. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep > these older > > >> > > >> ports > > >> > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even > work on > > >> > these > > >> > > >> boards anymore. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no > longer > > >> > running > > >> > > >> on > > >> > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks! > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Warner > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > >> > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@ > > >> > freebsd.org" > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > >> > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@ > freebsd.org" > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Rod Grimes > > >> > rgrimes@freebsd.org > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > >> "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > > > -- > > Emmanuel Vadot > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Rod Grimes > rgrimes@freebsd.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-embedded > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-embedded-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " >