From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 09:31:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEC4CB2BF2; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EF8109A; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EA2273AC; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0G9VC81029470; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:31:13 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Julian Elischer cc: Aijaz Baig , "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Understanding the rationale behind dropping of "block devices" In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <20170116071105.GB4560@eureka.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <29468.1484559072.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:31:12 +0000 Message-ID: <29469.1484559072@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:08:45 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:31:22 -0000 -------- In message , Julian Elis= cher = writes: >Having said that, it would be trivial to add a 'caching' geom layer to = >the system but that has never been needed. A tinker-toy-cache like that would be architecturally disgusting. The right solution would be to enable mmap(2)'ing of disk(-like) devices, leveraging the VM systems exsting code for caching and optimistic prefetch/clustering, including the very primitive cache-control/visibility offered by madvise(2), mincore(2), mprotect(2), msync(2) etc. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .