From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 17 14:16:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7F4A179D7 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romapera15@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x232.google.com (mail-lb0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 051156E8 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romapera15@gmail.com) Received: by lbbpp2 with SMTP id pp2so88638139lbb.0 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 07:16:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PzTgydEsQrmK459jhUDn1mZADHW1DJVQto8RHbVrWnQ=; b=hxkfAy6e3YyQEdIOm28X6eanMCHJeTJJxx7O9i0ZcyQnRUKBQ+t0bd86xODSFoTgat WyxZ3JXWqXkaQ2/OeEWAj+Gi9Hgy4KCDtydTnc0v9++w9qeNtSbztJ+KkHQt2z/ls8AI f6Nvp5otOWMprga1v1+P638mdK1/XK2pB0IkmyhPf5ZexEd2fVzky/rZ5Wcx3IWrQh0j AzPIMfNKLnvMjunHmmiertJMlx/FDEQVb6HpNp/3n91j6Q5rT8ja45+weXQ+8g8w6j65 JSgWEE7Z9Sr4HIT5ZXdU2aRXFkNY49UFfkPWn+6k8MlAZKSnvekk1E+fr2fT2Ch7AzUp plbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.136.39 with SMTP id px7mr3835225lbb.77.1445091415137; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 07:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.145.193 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 07:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 11:16:55 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: [OFF-TOPIC] Because Theo and various users told them that the projects GnoBSD and Comixwall were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD? From: =?UTF-8?Q?fran=C3=A7ai_s?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:16:57 -0000 I always find it amusing how OpenBSD is "audited", yet there's not one audit report on the OpenBSD website. The closest answer I've been able to find on the mailing list is to review all of the CVS commit logs. Yeah, that's not opaque in the slightest... The bigger problem with OpenBSD is it's community. In the FreeBSD world, you have PC-BSD and pfsense, both of which are generally welcomed by the community. With OpenBSD, there were two sister projects that tried to target a similar audience: GnoBSD and Comixwall. Comixwall was the equivalent of pfsense for easy router/firewall management and GnoBSD was an attempt to make an easy-to-use desktop. Both, however, ended up shutting down after Theo and various users told them that their projects were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD. Because Theo and various users told them that their projects were worthless and that they weren't contributing to OpenBSD?