From owner-freebsd-wireless@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 16 18:53:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BA36C7; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rank1seeker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465F78FC0A; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id je9so2319225bkc.13 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:53:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer; bh=Ey54IEnlz0DBl3QWhubW4PWea5ojZm432J3dVG/Achk=; b=r/8RrvhEWPPglpXULR1RpDFJh/waot3H07dYHh+u+3c2RpLRCo0aellQ1U7dodxdPl GrzFaegb/oxzCUhU1uXgwsWAh4IjT6gnDmAe8t8SnJQQpAPmkxayBNB9SsTP0/JMXIvT x4QxxJVtrlQ107mOwI2oEY6l8sNyA2xeFxhe2GZe5vGOsDihgTUhoGsVGjCsbQo4nuyf njGoZRy4gjhawOYNjcL/Fd6QCuFJi1kW2M1fsE1Q2G5SRucrqNnbQfdkieKvfuqnC+YY xuKK0bP3LA82PZz7uChx5H/7IUX7CcOd5QpYXa0D2PfgtRdRjH6T6SPqEDCh3HlQLowO l7gQ== Received: by 10.204.148.22 with SMTP id n22mr5157700bkv.6.1355683984075; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from DOMYPC ([82.193.208.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i20sm7797653bkw.5.2012.12.16.10.52.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:53:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20121216.185304.164.5@DOMY-PC> From: rank1seeker@gmail.com To: "Adrian Chadd" , freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Atheros chip for FreeBSD Access Point Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:53:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20121216.143815.770.4@DOMY-PC> X-Mailer: POP Peeper (3.8.1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:53:06 -0000 > On 16 December 2012 06:38, wrote: > > I need a card(PCI/PCIe) with Atheros bassed chip, for hostAP with 5Ghz + n support > > Hi! > > > After searching '/sys/dev/ath' for 'hostap' on '9.0-RELEASE-p5', 'AR5416' came out as a lattest chip, which supports it + N ready + supports 5ghz + supports hardware encription > > Exactlly ALL requierements which I target for! > > Yup! > > > However looking at: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/dev/ath_hal%284%29/HardwareSupport > > Scetion: 'Known chipset issues/limitations/bugs' > > -------- > > AR5416 (Mine choice) / AR5418 > > > > interrupt read-and-clear bug > > Every chip up until the AR938x has this bug. It's ok, I've worked around it. > > > PHY register read corruption bug > > I need to finish this WAR, but it's not a problem. > > > 8K max aggregate size if RTS protected, otherwise 64K max size > > This results in reduced throughput in 802.11n modes. It's fine, you > can still get > 150mbit TCP out of it in quiet conditions; it just > means in noisier conditions the smaller RTS size means you end up with > lower performance. > > > radar detection limited to primary channel only > > We don't do radar detection yet, so no worries. > > > can't do 4-addr frames with aggregation; thus it can't participate in WDS without local (Atheros) extensions > > I haven't made WDS + 11n work right. > > > block-ack issues with multi-ssid mode (?); thus aggregation is only supported on the first (lowest?) mac address. Or, just don't create more than one virtual 11n-enabled interface. > > Yup, only one VAP supported for 11n + aggregation. > > > -------- > > I can't decrypt those sentences, so ... > > Should I be worried about them, as AP must give best speed and reliability. > > Then you shouldn't go with the AR5416. > > > > > > Then again, looking at lattes 'AR9287' chip - my WOULD_LIKE choice > > The AR9287 has almost all of the above bugs fixed. But it's only 2GHz. > > -------- > > AR9227/AR9287 > > > > interrupt read-and-clear bug > > -------- > > > > But it doesn't seem to support hostAP mode! > > It does! > > > If it does, then correct me! > > Rememeber, I was searching '9.0-RELEASE-p5' code tree! > > > > > > Looks like my best bet is: > > AR5416 (with radio AR5133), but latest is AR9287 > > Yes, but if you need 2/5GHz support, I suggest grabbing an > AR9220/AR9280 and using that. > > > Additionally 'AR5416' supports hardware encription, does 'AR9287' too? > > Yup, all the Atheros chips support hardware encryption. Everything > AR5212 and later supports all of the encryption types. > > > > Adrian Thank you Adrian So you've said: 'AR9280' It's only bug is: -- baseband hangs? -- Whatever it means. ;) At which aspects is 'AR9280' inferior to 'AR9287'? I've found cards bassed on it here: http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Special:Ask?title=Special%3AAsk&q=%5B%5BChip1+model%3A%3AAR9280%5D%5D&po=%3FInterface%0D%0A%3FFCC+ID%0D%0A%3FVendor+ID%0D%0A%3FDevice+ID%0D%0A%3FSubvendor+ID%0D%0A%3FSubdevice+ID%0D%0A%3FChip1+model%0D%0A%3FSupported+802dot11+protocols%0D%0A%3FMIMO+status%0D%0A%3FOUI%0D%0A&sort_num=&order_num=ASC&eq=yes&p%5Bformat%5D=broadtable&p%5Blimit%5D=500&p%5Bsort%5D=&p%5Boffset%5D=&p%5Bheaders%5D=show&p%5Bmainlabel%5D=&p%5Blink%5D=all&p%5Bsearchlabel%5D=&p%5Bintro%5D=&p%5Boutro%5D=&p%5Bdefault%5D=&p%5Bclass%5D=sortable+wikitable+smwtable&eq=yes None can be found in Croatia, so ... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atheros-AR9280-AR5BDT92-PCI-e-Desktop-Wi-Fi-WLAN-Card-/120705075663 Atheros AR9280 AR5BDT92 PCI-e Desktop Wi Fi WLAN Card But as I have a Dell Latitude D830, with a FULL SIZE Mini PCIe Broadcom card, which is unusable on FreeBSD I've found this (SAME chip): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atheros-AR9280-AR5009-AR5BHB92-Half-Mini-PCIe-Wireless-WLAN-WIFI-Card-802-11-n-/120774611736 Atheros AR9280 AR5009 AR5BHB92 Half Mini PCIe Wireless WLAN WIFI Card 802.11 n Would Dell's BIOS sabotage it as "not on the white list"? Also would I really need this extension: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bracket-Intel-BroadCom-Atheros-Ralink-Realtek-Half-Mini-PCIe-WLAN-Card-Full-/140833618674 Bracket Half Mini PCIe WLAN Card to Full Domagoj