From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 12 13:46:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inspiron.tenebras.com (ip-216-73-143-80.vantas.net [216.73.143.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAC437B406; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tenebras.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inspiron.tenebras.com (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f88H1bM00648; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 10:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Message-ID: <3B9A4EEC.9986BA89@tenebras.com> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 10:01:32 -0700 From: Michael Sierchio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Jordan Hubbard , nik@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, developers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4 will be delayed until Saturday, the 8th of September References: <20010906091807.A66592@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010906094830P.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010906224612.I66592@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010906145730E.jkh@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > At 2:57 PM -0700 9/6/01, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > >Well, there does appear to be a lot of general feeling that we should > >wait, so how would people feel about a push-back to the 14th? That > >would put it out next Friday. > > This is probably a prudent idea. I definitely have no time to do > any serious testing until this weekend, and by then it would have > been too late to bother. (not that you need ME to test it! :-). > > >A corollary to this, however, is that I will NOT be accepting any more > >feature submissions to the branch! ... A week for polishing things up > >I can buy, but not a week to try to cram in everything that missed the > >deadline. The branch is now FROZEN, as in arctic pack ice. > > I definitely agree with this. I definitely understand Jordan's comments re: motivating folks to finalize work and check it in -- that's what deadlines are for. But I would support any amount of delay required to meet QA goals. (The ancient definition of BETA is "no more features, only bug fixes" -- we should remember to adhere to *some* life cycle model or other) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message