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Date:      Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:23:59 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Drew Derbyshire <ahd@kew.com>
To:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: hacked and don't know why
Message-ID:  <199807221823.OAA03826@kendra.ne.mediaone.net>
In-Reply-To: <14999.901130389@time.cdrom.com>

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> From jkh@time.cdrom.com  Wed Jul 22 14:00:53 1998
> > Well, even someone parading around as root wouldn't have much purpose
> > in changing the ownership of files to User 30005 (no ID) or in changing
> > the group ownership to random gid's. Very obvious and not good for hacking.
>
> You're assuming that the hackers knew what they were doing or that
> they didn't attempt to run other exploit scripts which malfunctioned.

Goodness knows, I'm willing to disagree with Jordan (whether I
should or not :-)), but he's on target with this.  Remember, these
are actually crackers, not hackers; if they were any good at writing
code, don't you think they find better things to do?  Even if they
did know what they were doing, there is nothing to say they didn't
trash the place on purpose.

I'd suggest we move on ... BTW, I did bother to just check what's
the qpopper version now in the ports collection, it's 2.53.  (I
personally didn't know).  My thanks to the nice people handling
the ports who have kept it updated.

--
Drew Derbyshire                 Internet:       ahd@kew.com
Kendra Electronic Wonderworks   Telephone:      781-279-9812

 Harris's Lament: All the good ones are taken


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