From nobody Wed Jun 22 01:23:42 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF74862755 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 01:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ej1-f43.google.com (mail-ej1-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LSQdZ2949z4bQ8 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 01:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ej1-f43.google.com with SMTP id o7so31041028eja.1 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:24:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=A+Zk99c/9aFK+ATc4KkguL7bXx9J8qXG52jqrjMqWII=; b=BPAYH+3xSi/jhpjB/R1Lo1UzVQwzBVV3+KHMzfpgEvOopoPdqrCQlFkDNjoSeiKl5o JhumwbqASHrnogtqfVcJq6s1Uo/kK0bPIM0vLF1wZ2FkV8NU4+qtn7F2PwyU7T4CesoZ 5hAT5ZhCnAjj0RHM4IiPT2HTP55L3uLkM6Wlv3ZCeqYMWoCIgAuzd0EjWBboxL0vojtw DAv9KiCe/Vn1DGAlM4vjfQbgngI5G5nRObHNkKlm4o65+gdqnE9vCfYwXRu1zUwNSWlA uQJ3Qk8bud3oVtd2Q0FEzShCHFLib1Xypm9HdxWoQeKaQyiI+q8+Lz/nBD9+bSbJW+LP W2aw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9oXN1xP7wyEmniARCQCTvZ3raNte6GLJTnWp+lx/tSfkGseruq vUG/RSTz9cbLv2mBz4vziuRPhZAkAO35WHF4nA8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1sZmORDyo50PC37ReZ6v2h0LimBPZMXz5Qu0Nn5ZPx7hukhzvn0kY/27FPo6sslqME60sbIr+b2BxGLHgT1Buo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:b795:b0:722:e662:cffe with SMTP id dt21-20020a170906b79500b00722e662cffemr767125ejb.121.1655861034655; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:23:54 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20211126160454.3eb827365a02103169ab9adc@bidouilliste.com> <20220621201924.e9b96876c947140ac1f3b7a4@bidouilliste.com> <3d09c86a-9840-f8bf-4725-8098d958a01d@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <202206211901.25LJ1uBd067376@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <202206211901.25LJ1uBd067376@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Ed Maste Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:23:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reasons for keeping sc(4) and libvgl ? To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4LSQdZ2949z4bQ8 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[carpeddiem]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.72)[0.715]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.218.43:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.218.43:from]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 at 15:02, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > But the operative word there is "still", isn't it ? > > There is nothing which prevents vt(4) from doing the right thing is there ? Just a simple matter of programming. We should indeed add dpms support to vt.