From owner-freebsd-current Fri Apr 10 08:13:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24212 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:13:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.visint.co.uk (wakko.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24198 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:13:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@visint.co.uk) Received: from dylan (dylan.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.180]) by mail.visint.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13881; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:11:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:11:32 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome X-Sender: steve@dylan To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ps segfaults since I overclocked. and worries. In-Reply-To: <8006.892219311@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Steve, and everybody else: > > If you overclock, we don't want to waste time on your trouble before you > convince us that the same problem occur if you run your hardware inside > spec. > > End of story! > > Run it inside spec, if you still have problems, tell us, if they disappear > you will probably be able to draw your own conclusions from that. > > DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPLY UNTIL YOU HAVE DONE THIS! My machine is fine at normal speeds, without the overclocking, I already mentioned this. I was wondering if there was a problem with FreeBSD on computers with non 66MHz bus speeds. There is some mention of this in /sys/pci/ide_pci.c, I am 100% certain that the hardware I have is performing fine at these speeds, however it would be handy if FreeBSD is able to cope with the new higher limits that are going to be in place fairly soon. It's silly to assume we'll be stuck with 66MHz busses forever and anyone who actually owns a 188MHz 6x86MX will be clocking at 75MHz buss speed anyway. If there are hardcoded limits that prevent these people from using FreeBSD then that is a problem. Isn't it ? I'm not asking for for anyone to solve this problem for me specifically. I'm just asking whether FreeBSD will actually run properly on a standard PC that is by default running at frequencies and with timing values that people are not used to. Does the following mean that some new PC's are not going to work properly? And that FreeBSD just won't support them ? from src/sys/pci/ide_pci.c: 355- } 356-} 357- 358-/* 359- * XXX timing values set here are only good for 30/33MHz buses; should deal 360: * with slower ones too (BTW: you overclock-- you lose) 361- */ 362- 363-static int 364-via_571_dmainit(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie, 365- struct wdparams *wp, -- 660- } 661-} 662- 663-/* 664- * XXX timing values set hereare only good for 30/33MHz buses; should deal 665: * with slower ones too (BTW: you overclock-- you lose) 666- */ 667- 668-static int 669-intel_piix_dmainit(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie, 670- struct wdparams *wp, I'll shut up now, but if FreeBSD isn't going to be supporting hardware that will be becoming standard soon then I'm slightly worried, I'd have thought current- was the testing ground for stuff such as this Steve Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message