From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Mar 16 14:31:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC4637B718 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:31:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2GMV5G66822; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010316170551.A3379@peitho.fxp.org> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:31:17 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Chris Faulhaber Subject: Re: NO MORE '-BETA' Cc: Alfred Perlstein , arch@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 16-Mar-01 Chris Faulhaber wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:59:36PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 16-Mar-01 Garance A Drosihn wrote: >> > At 12:26 PM -0800 3/16/01, John Baldwin wrote: >> >>On 16-Mar-01 Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >>> Yes, the real problem with this is '2' (newvers.sh), there's nothing >> >>> wrong with using 'BETA' in the names on the ftp site. >> >> >> >>People who follow -stable should be reading -stable. >> > >> > A lot of people "should" be doing a lot of things. Maybe these users >> > partially follow the -stable mailing list, but happen to ignore any >> > message with '-beta' in the subject because "they know" they are >> > running the -stable branch. As I say, it is only a few people each >> > release, and it never takes more than a few minutes to calm them down, >> > but it DOES happen every release cycle. >> >> Is this in the FAQ yet? If we documented our release engineering process >> and >> put it on the website, that would eliminate most of this confusion. :) I've >> somewhat attempted to do this but can't seem to get the release engineer to >> look at it. :-P >> > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/admin.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE Woo, cool. Then it seems people aren't using the resources normally available to them either in the form of mailing lists or the FAQ. I'm not sure we need to sacrafice our release engineering process for the sake of people doing cvsup upgrades that can't be bothered to either read the mailing lists or look in the FAQ. :( -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message